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Show HN: Eesel – Federated search without API integrations (eesel.app)
54 points by amoghs on July 15, 2022 | hide | past | favorite | 28 comments
Hey there! Amogh here from eesel (https://eesel.app). eesel filters your browser history to show the docs you need for work, right in your new tab. You can see recent docs, filter by app or search by title or content.

We're trying to solve a pretty universal problem. Everyone's work is spread across apps - there's a project brief in Google Docs, issues in Jira, a mockup in Figma, PRs in GitHub - and with this kind of sprawl, it can be a game of trial and error to find the links we need to do our job. Trying keywords in the address bar only works if we remember the title and it's specific enough, search in apps can be slow and noisy, company "knowledge hubs" in Confluence or Google Drive are usually not up to date, and we ultimately just ping each other on Slack to find things.

I was struggling with this acutely as a PM at Intercom, and it felt ridiculous that I could search the web faster than my company's docs.

It was around this time that I also discovered an Effective Altruism blog post on Operations (https://80000hours.org/articles/operations-management/) and how "maximising the productivity of others in the organisation" can have this multiplier effect for your own impact.

That's when it clicked - here's an "operations" problem that felt tractable for my skills and I could potentially multiply my impact by solving it. This is what gave the conviction to prototype something on the weekends, and things spun off from there.

Let's talk about the solution more. The magical thing about eesel is that we don't use APIs.

When it comes to "search across apps", integrating with different APIs is a pretty default way to approach things. That's how we started, but things felt uneasy - could we really build API integrations with _everything_? There's so much out there, and this list is pretty much always changing.

If we really did want a search across all work apps, we'd have to play catch up with old and new APIs. You could argue that these were just the schleps (http://www.paulgraham.com/schlep.html) we had to overcome, but it was amidst this we realised that uh, the browser exists.

We mostly work in the browser, and the great thing about it is that it's built on web standards. From HTTP and URLs to HTML and CSS, all apps in the browser follow the same predictable patterns: documents are accessed via URLs, content lives inside the HTML, there's a page title, there's a favicon, and so on.

It's not a perfect replacement for APIs, but it felt good enough. We didn't need to manually integrate with each app, and could instead rely on existing web standards. And that's what we did. eesel works with any app in the browser, including apps without APIs (like that internal company tool), or apps that don't exist yet (the new Product Hunt hit).

Not using APIs also meant that we could go an extra step with privacy - eesel works fully locally by default and you don't need to login to _anything_ (even eesel!). Simply install and it works.

We want to keep building on this approach and improve how we work in the browser. For instance, eesel uses keywords to automatically organise pages into Folders, and there's Commands to take actions (spoiler: you can customise a JavaScript to inject on a page, like this script that goes to a Notion backlog and clicks the "New" button - https://eesel.notion.site/Notion-New-page-f10c7398209544088a...).

Alright, that's a lot of writing from us. We have a bunch of ideas, and would love to hear about where you think we should take this next.




Cool stuff. Played around with it and here are some comments

Must have before I'm comfortable sharing with team - Could not figure out how to edit the rules for a folder once created, had to delete the folder and recreate to get to rules - Did not like that eesel took over my start page, I had a different start page and if i tried to keep my old start page it disabled the extension - This will likely be a blocker - I'd like to see much more granular control over what is being seen/indexed/shared from my history and since I use more than one profile to keep things separate, I'd like to see a way to separate personal profiles from team/workspaces

Nice to have (eesel-for-developers): plugins: I'd like a way to customize the pages/rules etc - maybe add custom javascript etc. cli: that allows me to programmatically create a folder with url's - inspect folders, move between folders etc. vscode-extension: to create ephemeral light-weight folders that bring source code files (github/bitbucket urls), jira ticket urls, documentation urls all together in one folder

Great start!


Thanks for trying eesel out and sharing your thoughts! Helps us heaps. Some pointers on that:

1. To edit the rules for a Folder, open the Folder and head to "Add pages" > "Automatically". We've heard it a few times that discoverability of this isn't great, and it's definitely something we should improve.

2. You can use eesel without having it in your new tab. Here's a help article on that - https://intercom.help/eesel/en/articles/3728989-how-to-remov...

3. To clarify, everything is local by default and only pages you explicitly share by adding to a Workspace, a shared Folder and so on are shared.

4. I imagine we'll want to support eesel profiles at some point to better separate personal and work things, but one workaround till then is to have different Chrome profiles and install eesel on both.

Let us know if you have any other thoughts that pop up!


Sick demo, really like how clean it looks and how easily you can get started with eesel (just installed it to give it a try).

Would be really interesting to see how you can make eesel's search available in third-party apps. E.g. in Slack to quickly share a particular URL without having to leave the app.


Thanks! Keen to see how your use goes.

Love that idea, it's something we've been floating around ourselves. We're not sure if the problems around that are painful enough for people to change existing habits (is it annoying enough for you to switch apps?), but let us know if you have any thoughts on that!


Caught my attention as eesel means donkey in my mother tongue. Privacy policy and terms of service links lead nowhere. Does not seem like those topics are considered seriously, just to make the footer look right. Seems like a scam.


I just checked and the footer links work fine for me, and I'm not sure which links you're referring to. Privacy is really important to us, we've gone through security reviews in a bunch of notable companies, and we all take a lot of personal pride in our attention to detail here. Note how you can use eesel without even logging in.

Privacy - https://www.eesel.app/privacy Terms - https://www.eesel.app/terms


I'm not experiencing GP's observation, but I'd guess they're using noscript, since the actual body of that footer is some _super weird_ markup:

    <a style="" href="https://intercom.help/eesel/en/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Help
    Privacy policy
    Terms of service</a><br></span>


Don't know if this is just mine, but the Privacy Policy and the TOS links both link to the help center.


We had an issue for some mobile phone which is fixed now. Thanks for letting us know!


Incredible product demo [0] and clean design, congrats on launching!

The onboarding looks so smooth because you pull so much context from browser history. Impressively simple.

My technical question is how you get the feed to work (or maybe I'm misunderstanding what it is) if you're not receiving updates from an app. When someone else makes an update to a google doc, how does eesel know and push a feed update?

[0]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLWCTjkmxgM&feature=youtu.be

edit: FWIW I'd def install this but I mainly work in safari


Thanks, glad you liked the demo! We'll hopefully support Safari soon.

The feed works by pushing new pages you or your teammates make and share. For instance, if you make a new Notion page and add it to a Folder, it'll get pushed to other teammates who are members of the Folder. There's no automatic way to notify teammates of an update for now, but we're working on something related to do that right now.


Got it, thanks that makes sense. So it's a feed of updates from other eesel users on documents I have accessed.


Not quite, I did a poor job explaining it, sorry!

When a document is shared with you in eesel (say, your teammate adds it to a team folder), even if you haven't seen the document before, it'll appear in your eesel. It's a way to discover what teammates are up to.

The idea is that everyone can automatically push their work into shared folders, and build a team 'source of truth', without the overhead of maintaining things.

Does that makes sense?


Slick product, I saw your blog and was wondering how did you create a Mercury account as a foreign founder?


Thanks mate!

Foreign founders can make a Delaware C Corp. We used Stripe Atlas for that and it did the job well! From there, it's the same process.


nice. i tried it on firefox. it did not show me tabs that were in the private windows, only ones in the "non-private browsing" one which kinda isnt for me as i do most of my work in the private browsing windows during the day. Maybe you can add support for that


You might be able to use Firefox containers and set FF to forget all history when you exit?

I prefer my private browsing not be remembered by any apps, it generally wouldn't be useful.


You'll need to enable the add on for private windows - https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/extensions-private-brow... - and it'll work as expected after


i already did that. what i am asking for is, any tab that is in private window right now does not show in eesel


i tried to use it, but i didn't get very far since i don't use any of the apps that were supported. i'd be interested in something more generic that would just let me search through my whole history and save the search result as a new folder.

that would be incredibly helpful. that's how i work with email too. being able to group all my history into folders would allow me to reduce the number of tabs that i keep open now just so i can find them easier.


Thanks for trying eesel out!

eesel works with anything in the browser and the intent is to be generic. You can add any app like so - https://intercom.help/eesel/en/articles/3936045-how-to-add-a...

Does that makes sense? Also out of curiosity, what apps do you use?


i don't use many webapps at all. an etherpad here or there, github/gitlab, stackoverflow. most work related sites are research into problems or documentation or learning new stuff (blogs, videos).

manually adding apps/sites is to much work since i want to add everything.

when debugging an issue i have related sites all over the place, that i want to group somehow. same when doing research for a new project, or simply when dealing with multiple customers. i use firefox where i can manually group tabs into containers. that helps, but it doesn't cover history, so if i close a tab, the page is no longer associated with the project. for bookmarks, i have to remember to bookmark each page, but then i can't tell which ones are more important or more recent. it would be nice to if grouping could be more automatic based on heuristics like keywords found in the page and also tab history.


Looks interesting cos I live in Chrome, often have a lot of tabs open and it could help find things. If it runs fully locally, how do the team features work?


Thanks! Keen to see if you find it valuable.

Everything runs fully locally by default, but to enable features like sharing pages with teammates, we need to have servers. The content of your pages is still only stored locally on your browser, no exceptions. We run through the details in our privacy policy - https://www.eesel.app/privacy

Fun fact - we did consider being totally serverless and having some distributed, peer-to-peer database, but there were too many unknowns to go down that path. Maybe one day!


installed eesel a couple months ago. really helpful to quickly find documentation pages when coding. it fits right into my workflow.

hoping for more keyboard shortcuts xD


Love it! I'm keen to add more keyboard shortcuts too. Is there anything in particular you wish had keyboard nav?


a shortcut to add the current website that im on to a folder would be so great!


I'd love keyboard shortcuts to navigate quickly through folders too!




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