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lol man



Alright, seriously. I'm finally somewhere with internet. The fact that this was so god damn hard to find is so telling. Look starting at page 63. I really can't believe this information is _so_ difficult to find.

https://www.ohrc.on.ca/sites/default/files/Use%20of%20force%...

Look at fleeing police in Table C20: Civilian actions at the time of police encounter (as concluded by the SIU), SIU use of force investigations, Toronto Police Service, 2000 – 2006

Look at resisting arrest in Table C21: Civilian actions at the time of police encounter (as concluded by the SIU), SIU use of force investigations, Toronto Police Service, 2013 – 2017

Look at who has guns and knives in Table C22: Civilian possession of a weapon at the time of police encounter (as concluded by the SIU), SIU use of force investigations, Toronto Police Service, 2000 – 2006

Look at guns and knives in Table C23: Civilian possession of a weapon at the time of police encounter (as concluded by the SIU), SIU use of force investigations, Toronto Police Service, 2013 – 2017

There's all the stats and numbers directly linked and the relevant tables. Am I still a racist?

btw, this conversation would have gone a lot smoother if you had just said you didn't see the tables with the race/weapon breakdown. Then I would have realized I was linking to the wrong thing this entire time. You wanted me to be a racist so badly that you were letting me flail around looking like an idiot with irrelevant links (even though I told you my situation - I couldn't _see_ the PDF because I couldn't download it) and weren't even trying to work with me here or give me the benefit of the doubt.


> btw, this conversation would have gone a lot smoother if you had just said you didn't see the tables with the race/weapon breakdown

It’s not that I couldn’t find the data, I did not look because you did not indicate the data would be any different than the same arguments that also come out defending the police when it comes to discrimination. And your data still follows that! It’s just crime stat! It does not account for police prejudice that leads to overpolicing

> Am I still a racist?

If you walk away from these stats thinking black peoples actions are the root cause of the overpolicing, then yea you probably are




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