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I'm genuinely curious; did you truly not understand the intent of author in the comment you are replying to?

When someone says the "world is worse", I automatically know they mean a value judgment "for them" or "for humans" or "for animals" and not some scientific, objective measure on the "Planet Earth Goodness Scale".

A valid criticism in this case is that they are clearly valuing humans above other species because the world is objectively worse for the Rusty-patched bumble bee, to pick an example, which is critically endangered.




I don't know, but Steven Pinker (the loudest proponent of this claim) says such sincerely, and besides him, most ordinary people are moral/value realists and think there are genuine answers to these types of questions.


Well, there are genuine answers to these questions. Stephen Pinker asserts the world is getting better because, according to his value system, it is.

Many, maybe even the majority, of people would agree with him because, well, we're humans.

So, in this threads context, once people have the "facts", they ALSO agree that the world is better, not worse.


Yes, but that is still value laden. You cannot objectively compare 2 different domains like the benefit of improved healthcare vs the cost of destroyed ecosystems.


Yes, deciding economic and political goals will ALWAYS be value based at the end of the day.

I guess the point is; "this is value based" is a truism.




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