That's where their money is coming from. Advertising is at least as evil a concept as DRM if not worse. And it is the fuel of capitalism, which you claim to also hate despite sucking up to google and buying nice capitalist products. This makes you a hypocrite.
Real actual FSF and OS are projects like e.g. GNU/Linux and BSD. Google is nothing but a company and they use some of that available software and they also release a few little bits of their own software where it FITS their own business plan and marketing or where they get free code developed for them because the software is not directly running their core advertising business. Sun did the same thing. That's it. Nothing humanitarian or altruistic or world-freedom-good about it. It is smart business, not charity.
I am not trying to shut you up, I was hoping to get you even an inch off your radical, fundamentalist view and see a bit of positive that apple has brought in my opinion but this discussion is completely futile and I feel exactly like talking to one of those indoctrinated creationists denying evolution. You argue and act like a borderline-religious fanatic and in your arguments you actively twist reality to suit your fundamentalist goals and google-religious world view.
There is absolutely no objective justification to see google as "our saviors" and apple as "all evil hell", it is nothing but your personal preference - yet you would not flinch an eye if you could give all power to google and destroy apple and M$ right now since google's allegedly "natural" monopoly is totally acceptable for you, yet apple's 10% market share isn't. This fact alone makes you a fanboy, a fanatic and a zealot - and a wannabe tyrant.
Actual good has been done by the communities around GNU/Linux and BSD etc. Google is just a company and they are in it for the money. You just prefer their products and you make this personal preference up to be something everyone should like.
In addition you laugh at a person's (actually tragic) death. This makes you a terrible human being and just an asshole.
I don't need to know you and I don't WANT to know you, your actions make it clear: you think you are in a position to know it better than everyone who happily switched to a mac and this means you obviously think you are smarter than everyone else because they made "the wrong choice" according to your google-fundamentalism. You are unable to accept that people will simply buy what they like and what works for them and when there is something better (better for THEIR needs, not yours) they will use that thing.
> In the free software movement we
You are not part of no free software movement, you do not contribute anything - you are a google fanboy and a fanatic zealot.
You do not educate people, you are trying to indoctrinate with twisted facts that fit your own bill and you think you are fighting for some higher cause and your great enemies need to be abolished. This makes you a fundamentalist and zealot, not a benevolent teacher. You do not spread anything positive, you are fueled by hatred, nothing good comes of this. You don't even contribute to what you claim to believe in.
Free software and open source would be much better off without people like you. You give actual hackers who actually contribute time and code to real free software a bad name.
Free software and open source would be in a much better position if all those zealots like you who are talking big words would instead shut up and code better software to rival existing system. You have done nothing like that so you will have to accept Apple and M$ until some people spend THEIR time to make something better. Because all YOU do is talk.
This leads nowhere, your hatred and fundamentalism sits too deep for an actual discussion. You only see things in extremes, only black and white. You can not see other people's sides and you cannot accept their choices which, together with laughing about someone who died, suggests strong lack of empathy.
All together, I assume you are between 14 or 22 - exactly the age where little kids like to think they know the whole world and actually know and have seen and done nothing.
I am done talking to you and I regret HN doesn't offer a killfile.
One thing you said is that "all YOU do is talk." If you looked into my activities in more detail you would realize that one of my main areas of research is improving web browsing techniques. This is because I consider manual installation to be the most important HCI problem today, and web browsing is the main means of escaping it.
I do not consider Google to "our saviors", I actually consider the open web to be. Here are a few reasons:
- It will allow client operating systems to download and cache resources from the network, so that the problem of managing the installation process isn't being placed on the user.
- It will allow us to escape closed platforms like those produced by Microsoft and Apple.
- It will give us a good medium for delivering intelligent services such as machine translation and prediction.
Google just happens to be one of the greatest supportors of this effort and they deserve considerable praise for that.
> Advertising is at least as evil a concept as DRM
Why? Advertisments are one of the main reasons companies like Google are capable of giving out services for free to everyone, so in this sense advertisments are actually relatively good.
> see a bit of positive that apple has brought
What good have Apple or Microsoft brought exactly? They took Xerox PARC's innovations, then they built closed and restrictive platforms around them, the exact sort of closed platforms I want to replace with the open web.
> In addition you laugh at a person's (actually tragic) death.
The only thing I am glad about is that Steve Jobs cannot do any more harm to computing by acting as the CEO of Apple. it is a tragedy that he personally had to die. This is also what Stallman said.
> I am done talking to you and I regret HN doesn't offer a killfile.
You certainly are no longer interested in having a civilised discussion with me. You are now resorting to personal attacks such as "hypocrite", "troll", "asshole", "terrible human being", etc. Thank you for the mature topics that you did discuss before.
Google is mainly an advertising company! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google#Advertising
That's where their money is coming from. Advertising is at least as evil a concept as DRM if not worse. And it is the fuel of capitalism, which you claim to also hate despite sucking up to google and buying nice capitalist products. This makes you a hypocrite.
Real actual FSF and OS are projects like e.g. GNU/Linux and BSD. Google is nothing but a company and they use some of that available software and they also release a few little bits of their own software where it FITS their own business plan and marketing or where they get free code developed for them because the software is not directly running their core advertising business. Sun did the same thing. That's it. Nothing humanitarian or altruistic or world-freedom-good about it. It is smart business, not charity.
I am not trying to shut you up, I was hoping to get you even an inch off your radical, fundamentalist view and see a bit of positive that apple has brought in my opinion but this discussion is completely futile and I feel exactly like talking to one of those indoctrinated creationists denying evolution. You argue and act like a borderline-religious fanatic and in your arguments you actively twist reality to suit your fundamentalist goals and google-religious world view.
There is absolutely no objective justification to see google as "our saviors" and apple as "all evil hell", it is nothing but your personal preference - yet you would not flinch an eye if you could give all power to google and destroy apple and M$ right now since google's allegedly "natural" monopoly is totally acceptable for you, yet apple's 10% market share isn't. This fact alone makes you a fanboy, a fanatic and a zealot - and a wannabe tyrant.
Actual good has been done by the communities around GNU/Linux and BSD etc. Google is just a company and they are in it for the money. You just prefer their products and you make this personal preference up to be something everyone should like.
In addition you laugh at a person's (actually tragic) death. This makes you a terrible human being and just an asshole.
I don't need to know you and I don't WANT to know you, your actions make it clear: you think you are in a position to know it better than everyone who happily switched to a mac and this means you obviously think you are smarter than everyone else because they made "the wrong choice" according to your google-fundamentalism. You are unable to accept that people will simply buy what they like and what works for them and when there is something better (better for THEIR needs, not yours) they will use that thing.
> In the free software movement we
You are not part of no free software movement, you do not contribute anything - you are a google fanboy and a fanatic zealot.
You do not educate people, you are trying to indoctrinate with twisted facts that fit your own bill and you think you are fighting for some higher cause and your great enemies need to be abolished. This makes you a fundamentalist and zealot, not a benevolent teacher. You do not spread anything positive, you are fueled by hatred, nothing good comes of this. You don't even contribute to what you claim to believe in.
Free software and open source would be much better off without people like you. You give actual hackers who actually contribute time and code to real free software a bad name.
Free software and open source would be in a much better position if all those zealots like you who are talking big words would instead shut up and code better software to rival existing system. You have done nothing like that so you will have to accept Apple and M$ until some people spend THEIR time to make something better. Because all YOU do is talk.
This leads nowhere, your hatred and fundamentalism sits too deep for an actual discussion. You only see things in extremes, only black and white. You can not see other people's sides and you cannot accept their choices which, together with laughing about someone who died, suggests strong lack of empathy.
All together, I assume you are between 14 or 22 - exactly the age where little kids like to think they know the whole world and actually know and have seen and done nothing.
I am done talking to you and I regret HN doesn't offer a killfile.