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Ah, so we will hear no more about the threat of "cancel culture" then?



Nobody is saying these former employees should not be allowed to work any job ever again, just that SpaceX is not the right workplace for them.


Not to mention there is a difference in criticizing the CEO of a company for unsubstantiated and unproven claims, circulating internal letters, and getting fired, and saying that a man is not a woman on Twitter and not being able to work in most academia or media ever again in the next 5-10 years or maybe forever.

The place is context and result is comletely different.


There's also always the option to simply not spout off about personal opinions all over the internet unasked, especially when knowing about possible consequences.

Does everyone these days feel the need to become a martyr over completely insignificant personal opinions about all kinds of drivel that doesn't even affect them personally?

Is this really the hill some of you want to die on, because it's more important to you to discuss the relevance of genitals with billions of people, than to just keep this shit to yourself and maybe rage about it offline with friends and family and keep your job and future prospects?

Do you really have so little going on in your lives that you absolutely must have a strong opinion about everyone and everything and just have to share this in the most public, traceable, and persistent way possible, lest your mind implodes from all the piled up internal stress?


What an exasperated and weird defense of cancel culture. Trying to convince people something is irrelevant because the consequences are so high…


A weird defence you say? How about publishing a newspaper article about how certain aspects of communism make sense in the US back in the McCarthy era.

Heck, back then just a word from a disgruntled neighbour could land you a visit from the feds and potential jailtime. Today, it's getting banned from some oh-so-irrelevant social media platform that gets people all riled up.

You want to know what high consequences are? Outing yourself as homosexual in Iraq, Suda, Saudi-Arabia, or Jemen. All these countries can have you sentenced to death for just expressing your love to an individual of the same gender - or worse, just being accused of doing so.

It's truly fascinating how whiny some folks are about potentially facing negative consequences for trouble they voluntarily and willingly getting themselves into for no reason and over miniscule BS they just want to rage about.

Instead of doing the grown-up thing and writing letters to their representatives - you know, the people you elected to care about such issues and pass legislation that reflects your interests - they instead want to stand on a pedestal and shout their opinions for all the world to hear.

If you want to try and convince people, go talk to them. Do it in a context where it actually matters, like a school board meeting where rules are discussed that go against your conviction. No one's stopping you and no one's going to "cancel" you for doing so.

Honest to god question: what did people do in the early 1990s, 1980s, 1970s, etc.? Did they all spend their free time writing angry letters to newspapers, TV- and radio stations and have heated discussions in the middle of time square shouting their opinion at every passer by?


By that logic, we shouldn't be concerned about people living in poverty, because there's other people being shot and killed and raped and tortured in war. How about those activists for the hungry and homeless just stop getting riled up about it, don't they know how much worse war is?


When children are getting hormone treatment, without any real oversight, with lifetime consequences, a lot of people feel like they have to get involved yes. That's just the way some people are.

You might not like that, but I do.

And in case you don't believe the truly terrible effects of this, have a read in the detrans subreddit.


I have read the detrans subreddit. A lot of the accounts involve trauma in not being accepted in a non-cis identity. Others in not receiving enough support from either doctors or through therapy. There is varying oversight in receiving hormone treatment as well.

Trans groups are wide and varied. You will find plenty who believe in the weight of the decision and that it should be made accordingly.

This doesn’t excuse the huge amount of disrespect and hurt that gets thrown towards someone because they ask to be identified as a man or a woman. Just the other day someone burned a pride flag in Baltimore and ended up burning down three houses and sending four people to the hospital.

Surely in their mind somewhere, there was a thought that they were saving children from a “delusion”. But in this instance who has the delusion?


> a man is not a woman

I mean we all know what you are saying here. It is objectively wrong. And yes, if you profess it, I genuinely hope you could not find employment for the rest of your life, subject to squalor and begging for chump change on the street corner.

That would be the ideal world.




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