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> What is it with the Musk hate?

Repeated promises and claims which turn out false.

He is extremely arrogant and annoying. For example used "Pedo Guy" as insult at Twitter toward someone who committed crime of disagreeing with him, proceeded to claim that this does not mean "pedophile" in court.

And claimed that this person "married" 12 year old girl (actually, she was 32 years old).

Also, Musk has bunch of annoying fans.

(that is among some legitimate reasons, many hate him BECAUSE he is successful)

> dozen other things that will save humanity

That is really overstating it, and case of annoying fanboyism.

(personally I appreciate some achievements and see his role in that - without giving 100% credit to leader, confused why people praise some projects already, but see no reason to engage in fanboyism or Musk hate)




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> Why do you bring it up?

Because someone asked why some people hate him?

> It was years ago

Falsely accusing people of being pedophile and raping 12 year old is not something where saying "sorry" is sufficient to never bring it up.

> What claims “turned out false”?

Are you really unaware of numerous missed promises, deadlines etc?


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I didn’t know that at the time, as Elon had a better reputation then and I presumed that as a billionaire he would have access to interesting information. The fact that he was willing to double down on the claim suggested a source to his confidence.


Its ok to not defend bad behaviour from people you otherwise admire.


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Was that before or after he hired a PI to investigate said person to see if he could find any dirt to defame him further, after continuing to double down on the pedophile accusations, further calling him a child rapist, and marrying a 12 year old.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ryanmac/elon-musk-hired...

Doesn't sound like a one off lightly lobbed, 1 in 50000 fluke to me.


Throwing out grave insults because someone on the internet doesn't like your idea is a pretty good tell of the sort of character he is, even if it was 4 years ago.

Adding to the list of reasons to dislike him, there's him trying to get a lawyer who interviewed him for the SEC fired from his new unrelated job.


> What claims “turned out false”?

Here is a small subset: https://elonsbrokenpromises.com/


That site is BS though. It takes estimates and misquotes them as "promises."


When asked when "full self-driving" would be available, he said

> 3 month maybe

THAT is an estimate, but then he continued

> 6 months definitely.

THAT is a promise.

It continues like that.

Also, as CEO of Tesla, and with his Twitter account listed as an official source of information, he cannot just willy-nilly make "estimates“ completely and utterly removed from reality. This is misleading investors and customers, for which he repeatedly got in trouble.


To put it politely the best possible interpretation of what you have said is that you are very confused and have poor reading comprehension, and because of this you are mistaken.

First, that is not at all what he was asked. The question is quoted right on the site you seem to think is so great.

Second, what he said did come true. The two levels of functionality did and do differ significantly, such as with summon and lane changes.

The other quotes on the site are even weaker sauce.


> It was years ago.

Not original commenter, but, so what if it's a while ago, from appearances it's not like his character has changed that much from being a major dickhead. He dismissed Covid as nothing because it would've been bad for his factories' output (he didn't say this but let's draw conclusions). Oh that's 2 years ago, also old news?




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