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I don't see anything wrong with countries being called by their real names. It will take a while for everybody to get used to, but in the end we'll get rid of all the ambiguity. I can't help but wonder if the arousal over Türkiye has more to do with the person in charge there at the moment.



Would you kindly tell me the “real” name of Switzerland, a country with four official languages.

And what do you say to a Kurd who lives in Turkey and says “Tirkiye”? Are they incorrect in your view?


This question should be asked to the Swiss themselves, not to any outsider like me. I'm sure they can agree on a name, and I guess they did already because the official Swiss country code is 'CH' which doesn't correspond to any of their four internal country names.

To let outsiders decide what a country should be called, despite the country itself objecting, is beyond weird to me. How would you like it when your colleagues decided to call you by another name, just because they liked it better?


> I'm sure they can agree on a name, and I guess they did already because the official Swiss country code is 'CH' which doesn't correspond to any of their four internal country names.

To my knowledge absolutely no one calls them the "Confoederatio Helvetica" in normal conversation, neither the Swiss themselves nor foreigners. (And ironically that name seems to have its roots in an occupation by the French revolutionary army and a name given by Napoleon Bonaparte)

Also, I don't think you can always assume inhabitants of a country can agree to a common name. Often, names are heavily associated with political issues or power or identity issues and it may be impossible to choose a particular name and staying neutral in the conflict.

Example: Try to ask some people from Northern Ireland whether the name of the city is "Derry" or "Londonderry".


> How would you like it when your colleagues decided to call you by another name, just because they liked it better?

This already happens. It’s called nicknames. Sometimes a name in its original tongue is hard to pronounce for others, so we adopt a simpler one for convenience.


Unless you're a bully, you will only use nicknames that the individual themselves has offered you to use.


Your understanding of nicknames differs from mine.

Though I would agree a bully might continue to use a nickname which has been _vetoed_ by it's target.


Taking this particular tangent to its end, that'd be Latin: Confoederatio Helvetica. It's on the coins, so it must be official!


> This question should be asked to the Swiss themselves, not to any outsider like me. ... To let outsiders decide what a country should be called, despite the country itself objecting, is beyond weird to me.

Exonyms are very much a question for the outsiders. Nothing even remotely weird about it.

> How would you like it when your colleagues decided to call you by another name, just because they liked it better?

But they very often do, so what can you do about that? For example I seriously doubt that any large group outside of China calls Chinese nationals with proper tones, so that's over one billion people being "called by another name" in one fell swoop.


That was my point though. They have multiple country names. Swiss diplomats refer to their country by different names depending on the language they speak.

Why should a country have only one name across the whole world regardless of language being spoken? What are countries without Latin languages to do: write “Turkiye” amidst their non-latin script?

And what of the Kurds? Is their spelling now wrong?

Turkiye is how it is spelt in Turkish. Every other language has its own spelling and pronunciation. This happens with all countries.


If you think about it, all names are decided externally


Onomatopoetic names are somewhat intrinsic and thus we have many languages with similar-sounding names for cat and dog, to name some examples.


> Would you kindly tell me the “real” name of Switzerland, a country with four official languages.

If you ask someone from Switzerland you will probably get 2-3 different words for the different languages they know. Being multilingual is the norm over there.

[0] https://www.bbc.com/travel/article/20180325-switzerlands-inv...

[1] https://italiana.esteri.it/italiana/en/language-education/bi...




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