On: Starlink for RVs

[vetinari]

Some Chinese can see it. Just like some Westerners see the western one.

And many of them fall for the greener grass on the other side. It isn't.

[CorrectHorseBat → vetinari]

It's far, far from perfect, but the grass is definitely greener on this side. You'd have to be practically blind not to see that.

[vetinari → CorrectHorseBat]

And you would know because our guys are telling you so? They would never lie?

Demonization of the opponent is a thing as old as warfare.

While there are things that are wrong in China, there were waves of anti-China hysteria in the west. To find out cui bono I will leave for you.

[CorrectHorseBat → vetinari]

No, I actually think "our guys" (for as far there is one voice about this) have been far too naive about China.

I have lived long enough in China and know enough Chinese people in and outside of China to have a fairly good idea about Chinese censorship and propaganda. It's nothing compared to what we have here.