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I enjoy ethos greatly. I saw Atiye as well. Enjoyed both, but ethos to me was a eye opening and pretty deep. I knew about Kemalists (seculars) vs Muslims (supported by Erdogan) and was kinda fascinated by the division and how different is from Greek division (left vs right) but also by similarities.



In Ethos, the seculars are a caricature of what is known as "White Turks", i.e. the well educated middle class Turks with Western values who live in affluent neighbourhoods. Many people felt offended by it because it's also a political message from the conservatives about the "elites" being disconnected from the rest of the population. There was a culture and class war and the conservatives won, only to reduce their conservative values to clothing and alcohol, becoming the new "White Turks" who are detached from the rest of the society.

Anyway, the Turks and the Greeks are much more similar to each other than let's say, the French or the British. When a Turk and a Greek meet in western Europe they find relief as they understand each other much better than anyone else. Turks and Greeks are huge frenemies, in a sense that on state level they have never ending disputes over territories and things can quickly heat up but on social level they are almost like the same people and they love each other. When a disaster strikes, Greeks would be among the first to help the Turks and vice versa.

In Turkey, there's also Left&Right but the leftist were slaughtered during military coups(which happen every 20 years!) in the past, there's no sizeable movement by the left. Instead, the society is divided by many other things like ethnicity(Kurds vs Turks) and religion(sunni muslims and alawi muslims), cultural alliance(west v.s. russia among the seculars), values(liberals v.s. nationalists) or any other thing, including even cuisine!


Funny, because when I watched Ethos I thought the people with conservative background were portrayed as a caricature of reality.


Can you point me to where you find that the left/right division comes from Greece?


There is a Greek paper around this topic which I came across long time trying to answer this very question: https://www.academia.edu/2582910/%CE%91%CF%81%CE%B9%CF%83%CF...




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