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Suburban planners: we need 3 acres of land for 36 people in line for coffee (twitter.com/urbanthoughts11)
25 points by throw0101a on May 18, 2022 | hide | past | favorite | 8 comments



I get so irrationally mad when I see self important people backed up into travel lanes like this without a care in the world for the danger that may pose.


So they are short staffed due to Covid and thus drive through only. Things should get back to normal in a decade or so, when the plague finally abates.


I'm assuming you mean "look how much parking is wasted".

To be objective, there are actually more cars queued up in line than there are parking spots. It is just that no one is parking.

Perhaps the the shop stopped serving "in-person" during the pandemic and people are now accustomed to queuing in their car.

This image actually highlights that planners have in-fact not reserved enough space as there really should never be a car queue extending into what looks like public roadway.

So, in fact, because so much more land is wasted by the sloppy queue you actually need more than 3 acres.


> To be objective, there are actually more cars queued up in line than there are parking spots. It is just that no one is parking.

There is more space devoted to parking than there is to actual retail space (where humans go into).

As another post from the same account observed:

> Remember that electric cars won't solve congestion

* https://twitter.com/urbanthoughts11/status/15257981502834483...


Devoted to the unused parking! 2/3s of that drive thru line could be parked with their engine off.


I have experienced many times parking and walking into a coffee store (multiple different chains), ordering, and walking out with my fresh coffee before even a single car has gotten theirs. Some people just seem utterly set on never leaving their glorified mobility scooters.


In this particular case, yes.

But look at any suburban shopping mall (e.g., in Maps satellite view): how much of the land is for the mall's actual retail space, and how much is for parking?

(Part of this is zoning mandated of course, but it's a bit chicken-egg with regards to car-centric design.)


> electric cars won't solve congestion

Smaller, cheaper form factors springing up from lack of needing to carry around an ICE will, though.




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