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For whatever it's worth, HPMOR introduced me to Effective Altruism and lesswrong, etc.

Though I found it online and not from the $30K distributed, I have since as a result of being introduced to Effective Altruism there donated much more than $30K to highly effective charities and caused hundreds of other people to get into donating to highly effective charities too. I also started a company inspired by the EA concepts of working on "neglected problems" - https://80000hours.org/articles/problem-framework/#definitio...

I might be wrong, but I suspect there's a decent chance there was at least 1 person like me of the people in that $30k distribution.




Yep, exactly — and the average EA donates way more than $30,000 over their lifetime.

This is just a creative way to advertise, and I don’t see what’s wrong with charities trying to get their message out there.


When you put it that way, sure.

I think GGP may have been going for a different point though, which is - is EA getting an overly harmful outward reputation / giving the wrong impression to laypeople and others, in a way that inhibits the overall potential reach of the movement? Is the creative advertising causing more harm than good?

At least, that’s the question I’m asking after reading these three posts.

It seems like it’s a common theme among rationalist groups to take a strongly inside view of the situation, based on all the observable facts and known good being done, and totally ignore the bigger picture outside view.


Anecdotally, a ton of my EA friends have gotten introduced to EA through HPMOR. It's not as wild as a marketing strategy as OP makes it out to be.




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