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I wondered how someone so hostile could survive moderation here, so I looked at your comment history. It seems like your hostility started just 10 days ago, when you started posting things like:

> What the fuck kind of misanthropic sociopath are you?

> How disconnected from reality do you have to be for me to have to make this comparison explicit???

> Because you probably can't do anything other than voice your useless opinion.

What happened to make you so angry?




> I wondered how someone so hostile could survive moderation here

Not related to GP, but check out any front page political thread to see how hostility and toxicity evade moderation. There are tricks you can use to effectively ad-hominem someone without making it explicit and instantly flagged to the ground.

This for example, was a pretty popular method on some of the recent Elon Musk threads: https://www.ultius.com/glossary/literature/rhetorical-device...

Except instead of:

> The main purpose of the hypophora is to enable the speaker to anticipate the listeners' concerns and then address them within the context of his own speech.

You utilize it to discredit any further argument by asking a question regarding someone’s reasons or motive and instantly shoot them down with something negative that makes their argument look shoddy.

Also in general deep threads tend to hide hostility for a bit, especially if all sides are engaged. I’ve seen very deep threads that became nothing but different groups souring each other on here once. I imagine it gets harder to moderate when everyone is fighting and use user moderation is weakened.


I mean... in my case, there wasn't really much of an argument. I guess it was "rich people are better than poor people," which, I do want to discredit, but also don't want to legitimize.


Let's discuss this thread. You aren't discussing in good faith when you reduce the complaints in the article (paraphrasing): "I want to be respected at work and not be mocked on social media" to (exact quote): "Men complaining about women should be ridiculed and will always earn my condescension".


The comment I replied to wasn't referring to complaints about work, they were referring to complaints the dating game.

There is nothing wrong with being condescending towards men who talk about "women" like they're a different species.


The most common usage I saw was something along the lines of:

*You [do/don’t] like Elon Musk. Perhaps that is because [you’re as bad as him/you are jealous of him]

Obviously use your vocabulary and sentence structure to fluff it up and make it a little less blunt.


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> It gives me quite a lot of catharsis to call an idiot, an idiot.

I don't think Hacker News is meant to be a place where people find catharsis by calling other people idiots. Then again it's not my site; perhaps dang will indeed allow it.


To be sure, I don't go looking for it. But I don't feel bad in making a bigot feel unwelcome.


If everyone responded to content they found unwelcome with hostility and insults, the site would be nothing but a shouting match. That's why there are tools that remove unwelcome content without adding more, like downvoting and flagging.


I can't downvote or flag, and I don't really care to moderate my language. So I'll use the tools I'm given I guess?

Sad to see so much focus on a discussion of moderation, rather than the sexism and bigotry I thought was so evident.

So tell me, what do you think? Is shortness really that much an impediment in the dating game? And what is the solution, if that's the case?


Is it also sexist when women complain about being judged/mocked/disrespected for their weight?

The details are different for men and women but both can experience similar problems. Really the dividing line here isn't between men and women; it's between privileged and disadvantaged.

I guess it's called "body shaming" now, and it's one of the only remaining socially acceptable prejudices. There may not be a solution, but harassing people for talking about how painful it can be isn't helpful.


It is sexism when those women specify that they are being mocked by men. Being mean is not a trait inherent to women or men as the prevailing attitude in these comments implies.

>for talking about how painful it can be isn't helpful.

Allowing a culture of men complaining about women to fester is not healthy for society.




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