Historically. But if the historical context of slavery did not exist, it would still be just as unacceptable to treat Black individuals differently.
In essence, historical context is largely irrelevant to whether an action is right or wrong. An action is right or wrong in itself (with respect to the contemporary common moral framework, (which may itself be influenced by history) etc.)
As such, treating Black individuals differently is not more or less wrong than treating short individuals differently.
I believe I am being civil. I also think bad faith can be demonstrated, and that it has been.
>As such, treating Black individuals differently is not more or less wrong than treating short individuals differently.
Again, as I have mentioned repeatedly, we agree on this point. Where we disagree is in the assertion that there is "no difference" in effect, precisely because of the historical context.
You keep bringing the argument to the literal definition of “no difference” which no one is arguing against you on. One is heigh and one is race. They aren’t literally the same thing but it’s also clearly not what is being compared here.
Historical context does not influence whether an action is right or wrong in itself. You should not need atrocities to be recorded in history to tell you if you are doing the right thing.
It's amazing how circular the responses in this comment thread are getting. There appears to be disagreement on the surface, but in reality almost everyone is presenting a view which is at least compatible with each other's -- if not in direct agreement.
It's not fucked up. Racism isn't bad because of the historical context. It's bad because it's bad. "Shortism" is quite literally exactly as bad as racism.
Can we keep discussion civil? https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html - "Assume good faith."
> There are several important differences,
Historically. But if the historical context of slavery did not exist, it would still be just as unacceptable to treat Black individuals differently.
In essence, historical context is largely irrelevant to whether an action is right or wrong. An action is right or wrong in itself (with respect to the contemporary common moral framework, (which may itself be influenced by history) etc.)
As such, treating Black individuals differently is not more or less wrong than treating short individuals differently.