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> don't oppose it.

Formally they actively support it - they endorse PRC "deradicalization" policy since they suffer from extremist problems themselves. This isn't complicated, plurality of the world does not buy US/western genocide framing - they see PRC policy as relatively peaceful counter-insurgency and actual nation building effort for restive peoples which these regions have to deal with in spades. It's absolutely in their interest for XJ model to work, and perhaps be adoptable through a neat package like Huawei smart cities. West exports democracy that ultimately destabilize vs PRC exports security for serenity. Of course latter is preferable.




>Formally they actively support it - they endorse PRC "deradicalization" policy since they suffer from extremist problems themselves.

The USA just spent 20 years in the middle east 'deradicalizing' or at least that's the going claim from both these regimes. The USA doubts China because they know they were oh so wrong about that claim, not that they admit it.

99 terrorists on the wall, drone strike one, 105 terrorists on the wall.

>This isn't complicated, plurality of the world does not buy US/western genocide framing - they see PRC policy as relatively peaceful counter-insurgency and actual nation building effort for restive peoples which these regions have to deal with in spades.

I wonder how much the US/western biased media is really the one at fault here.

>It's absolutely in their interest for XJ model to work, and perhaps be adoptable through a neat package like Huawei smart cities. West exports democracy that ultimately destabilize vs PRC exports security for serenity. Of course latter is preferable.

This is interesting to me. I feel like you're saying something different. In a way you're saying democracy is unstable and PRC communist control with security is serenity.

This shanghai situation... brink of a peasant's revolt. Some crazy stuff going on there and the government decided to flipflop on an ultralockdown. The original reason for ultralockdown has actually only gotten worse. This is far from serenity in my books.


>USA doubts China

IMO misplaced doubt since forceful integration is as old has human civilization. US/west did it with indigenous peoples, and modern CCP has done it with fragmented post civil war China. People criticize cultural revolution / reeducation but forgets it works, almost always with proper application of force and commitment. Which US lacked in Afghanistan but PRC doing in spades with XJ securitization. There's been 0 terrorist attacks since. It's time tested instrument of control.

>biased media

The entire XJ genocide initiative is spearheaded under lying Pompeo, using host of US funded NGOs to launder fabricated narratives with hundreds of millions of propaganda funding directed to manufactured consent. So at least that much.

>democracy is unstable and PRC communist control with security is serenity.

No I'm saying PRC approach to COIN/deradicalization with mass monitoring and securitization infra has so far proven to be more effective for maintaining peace than haphazardly blowing people up while dumping money into corrupt reconstruction efforts. It's just a more serious and systematic approach because by all accounts US gave up rebuilding politically and was shovelling resources into a hole for maintenance mode due to politics.

>brink of a peasant's revolt

Same was said about Wuhan and other PRC chernobyl moments. I'll wager there will be less upheaval than antimask/vax protests. Citing "flipflop" as if western epidemiological responses haven't had massive same week changes according to development. A privileged Tier1 city of 25m lockdown with expected logistic hiccups and so far it's mostly people moaning on social media with very little "revolt" bleeding in real life - hasn't even escalated to tier of drama at end of Hubei lock down when adjacent provinces were trying to block cross border travel. It's milder than anything experienced in the west so far for lockdown more severe than anything west have implemented. There's nothing unanticipated about public outrage over inconveniences from lockdowns - that's how humans lash out everywhere regardless of severity. But seeing "peasants revolt" and "far from serenity" because western media reposted some weibo complaints is how PRC collapsists have been consistently wrong.

Couple month from now, if SH trends the way of Jilin or Shenzheng then CCP could be bragging about system defeating infectious covid strain that broke every other system (including soon to live with virus TW). The ability to mobilize and logistically supply 25M people with some initial blunders will also be massive propaganda win - everyone blunders, state capacity is about who blunders least and self corrects quickest.




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