I do wonder who pays to have all these comments put on hacker news. This happens a lot on Russia-related threads as well. Or is it just some nationality who learned incorrect history. On the Russia-related threads I would've put it to people from India as there's a big tech group there and they speak English and their country is cozy with Russia, but they wouldn't be defending China.
I'm from Germany, and i don't feel like the US is seeing itself as "equal" as to other countries. The US is one of the most militarily aggressive states, just within my lifetime, they invaded Afghanistan, Iraq and had several weird operations in Syria and Libya. "Normal" values would be zero.
I long for the day when US war crimes are treated the same way as war crimes by non-western countries. Instead they pull off shit like the Hague Invasion Act.
In all of the other wars you mention the US acted alongside broad coalitions. If you're going to criticize the US you should also criticize Canada, the UK, Spain, Italy, Australia and Germany.
You can make the argument about Iraq but in the case of Afghanistan the 9/11 attacks were a declaration of war and the US defended itself. 2,996 people died and over 6000 were wounded in the attack that started that war.
May I ask who paid for your comment? Why do you automatically assume that there's an organized campaign when the viewpoint disagrees with your own?
[Removed. Thank you commented below for the reminder to keep my background out of it]
I have watched the democracy, WMD, and human rights theatrics deployed before. There are always people saying "let's be a little skeptical" and they are always called treasonous and unpatriotic. Yet we find and time again that there is wisdom in heeding their warnings.
So please keep in mind that some of us are under the proverbial boot and so we have a good reason to remember how this play goes.
Since when does it take a pro-Western stance to condemn a war, terrible atrocities and genocides? What, non-Westerners lack a moral compass or compassion?
>Since when does it take a pro-Western stance to condemn a war
It takes a pro-Western stance to condemn Russia for invading Ukraine under false pretense but celebrate America invading Iraq under false pretenses (a war in which literally hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilians were killed: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Iraq_War).
Except no one is doing that other than you and people who want to change the topic to America even though America has nothing to do with the topic.
Sure if there was an article talking about what a great job the US is doing with foreign policy it's fair game to bring up times when the US had bad foreign policy.
Who is paying for all these pro-US government, anti-China, anti-Russia articles to pop up on tech news sites?
I know the US has interrupted the Grammy's broadcast to denounce Russia, or started the Saturday Night Live broadcast denouncing Russia, or fired various opera singers or pushed Russians out of sports federations so I guess tech is just another base to cover. After weeks of Russia bashing I guess it's time to get back to bashing the Chinaman's yellow peril.
The US "started the Saturday Night Live broadcast denouncing Russia?" So when you say the "US" did something, you mean Americans did something. Well Americans do a lot of things. I guess if your reference points are China and Russia, it may be hard to see the distinction
We recently had a discussion on good-faith communication here on HN.
In my opinion, it's perfectly OK for commenters to compare issues in Russia or China with issues in Europe or the US. And I can also relate that people in the US have a stronger opinion on fixing US issues than on fixing issues in China. If someone writes: "Let's fix discrimination close to where I live first!", that is not necessarily a bad thing or trying to distract or whataboutism. They are merely using this related topic to point out their own priorities.
I believe we should give them the benefit of doubt, especially if they mention real issues, and not just made up stuff. And in my opinion, faith-, color- or gender-based discrimination can sadly still be an issue in the west, too.
Also there's the issue of reciprocity: We wouldn't want China to intervene in the US. That makes it fair to ask why the US should be allowed to intervene in China / Russia. "We're the good guys" tends to be a lot more messy in practice.
