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I gathered that the point of the question is whether one would be able to distinguish between a power company drone and some random person flying in their back yard.



How would you distinguish a rando with a clipboard and high-viz vest from a city worker with a clipboard and a high-viz vest?


The city worker carries credentials and is usually driving a marked government vehicle. Neither one gets to be in my backyard without talking to me first.


Generally in the US it is legal for a random person to fly a drone above your private property. Only some states and localities have laws against it.


This is something that needs to change ASAP. Drones are the worst kind of modern pollution -- acoustic, visual, and surveillant pollution all in one.


Do you have power poles literally in your backyard, on an easement or something?


No, but I have underground pipes managed by a metro district. I've had people come by who were supposed to be inspecting a meter and they do have reasonable requirements for giving notice that they're entering or doing work. I've also had people come by to mark utilities who didn't realize they weren't in the right place until my dog's presence in the back yard made them talk to me first, so this is an expectation I care about maintaining.


It's pretty common. My first house was connected to a pole in my neighbor's backyard, and my current house has one in the front yard.


Are you suggesting a drone inspecting power poles would be unable to see over a fence?


Are you suggesting a person on a power pole is unable to see over a fence?


Yeah but you're replying in a thread below where I already answered your question about how these concerns get addressed with a person.


Yes the done inspecting the 20ft power pole can see over the 6 ft fence.


Some companies do use things like a mavic 2 pro for inspections, which consumers also purchase, there are no specific marking requirements (other than strobe if authorized for night operations) that a part 107 operated UAS would have that would be visible from the ground compared to the same hardware operated by a hobbyist.

If it's large and expensive the likelihood that it's some random person decreases, it's easy for a UAS with a thermal camera to be $8,000+.


> If it's large and expensive the likelihood that it's some random person decreases, it's easy for a UAS with a thermal camera to be $8,000+.

Or it's a fake thermal camera for $8 -- just some plastics but nothing inside. How is anyone a bit away going to know?

Threat modeling wise, these things could be bad & dangerous in one, two, three, four, more, different ways


I'd be vastly more concerned about the number of people dying from getting shot or in traffic accidents/drunk driving every year in the USA than people weaponizing hobbyist level drones.

> Threat modeling wise, these things could be bad & dangerous in one, two, three, four, more, different ways

you could say that about a Toyota Camry


You can be concerned about gingivitis even though heart disease continues to exist.



I don't think anybody is going to break into my house because they surveilled the place with a drone. I do worry about feeling less secure on my property because someone keeps watching me in the backyard with a drone and I have no way of finding out who it is. There are plenty of fantastic things that drones can do, I just want greater accountability in knowing who is doing what. There's a reason trucks from Rando Contractor LLC carry a giant "VERIZON CONTRACTOR" sign on the side.


> If it's large and expensive the likelihood that it's some random person decreases

We have identification requirements for other types of planes that cost significantly more.

On the other hand, I've seen utility-branded work clothing at Goodwill.


You won’t be able to do this, even once Remote ID is in effect. Only the FAA and law enforcement will be able to.




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