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Every city in the US. Between 'are we the baddies' and relatively meh pay most municipalities are short of officers.

I'd link an article, but googling 'police shortage' would seem to do the trick.


Do you believe it's worse than 10 years ago? than 20 years ago?

Pay for officers in the US has only gone in one direction, and it's up. They have more resources than ever, more staff than ever. They are perhaps hit with Covid-related issues like everywhere, but "meh pay"? They're not teachers.

Or maybe you think everything has been terrible for the past 20 years. Maybe you think there's always been a police shortage.


Is "are we the baddies" really a reason? Because many other industries are having a shortage of workers right now.


Law Enforcement definitely do not have "meh" pay in "most municipalities".


And let me guess, all teachers do is hand out worksheets for 6 hours a day and why do you always see 3 constructions workers standing around a hole? But you- you cleared 1.5 story points today tying two Javascript libraries together, that's where the real value is.


In New Jersey most of the town cops make 6 figures and are in less danger than a bicyclist on public roads.


I think that speaks more about being a bicyclist on the roads of New Jersey than the dangers a cop faces.

It's funny when people complain about HN being too US-centric, when in reality it's CA,NY/NJ, and MA centric. NJ is awash in money flowing from Wall St, so I don't feel bad that their cops make a decent wage.


The biggest danger most cops face is being hit while standing by a car they've pulled over. That totals to ~60mins if you spend a full day issuing traffic citations. There are much more significant risks the general public faces in their daily lives.


The entire world is not New Jersey- I'm sorry your posh township doesn't have more going on, but my guess is the garbagemen, plumbers, carpenters, etc make similar amounts. Move to Camden, they don't even have a police department anymore so I'm sure you'll love it.


San Francisco. Los Angeles. Seattle. San Jose (albeit theft has never received attention in San Jose)


Well, San Francisco cut their police budget by $6m... From $668 million. And they increased funding to other parts of the justice apparatus. Like and increase to juvenile programs and the district attorney's office. You'll be hard pressed to find even the most liberal cities in America have actually cut police funding in any significant way.


Portland, of course, definitely belongs on the list.

I live in a small town outside of Portland and it's not bad, we haven't cut the funding for our police.


I can only speak for the city I live in, but Seattle fits the bill perfectly right now.


San Francisco, for one.


They've never responded for things like this, be it now, pre-pandemic, or 20 years ago. It's never been an understaffing issue.


Berlin certainly too


Toronto ON




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