I couldn’t give a crap how you might choose to describe it. It’s still too much stupidity to be worth my effort reading. So I chose to stop reading it.
You cannot force intelligent people to read your mindless drivel just because you consider it “political”. And “mindless drivel” is exactly how I viewed the baseless debates against masks, vaccines, public health and such like.
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I really didn’t. I just added some personal anecdotes in a subsequent paragraph to describe why I personally quit Facebook. The body of what you replied to was unchanged.
> I couldn’t give a crap how you might choose to describe it. It’s still too much stupidity to be worth my effort reading. So I chose to stop reading it.
Nobody here is advocating that you must continue reading Facebook. I'm not on Facebook. I don't advocate anyone else to go on Facebook either.
> You cannot force intelligent people to read your mindless drivel just because you consider it “political”. And that’s exactly how I viewed the baseless debates against masks, vaccines, and such like.
Nobody is forcing you to expose yourself to political opinions that are contrary to your political opinions. People are entirely free to stay in their own little bubbles if they choose to do so, but they should also be free to discuss major political decisions, such as mask mandates, if that's what they want to do.
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> I really didn’t.
This is a flat out lie. Please stop spreading disinformation.
> I just added some personal anecdotes in a subsequent paragraph to describe why I personally quit Facebook. The body of what you replied to was unchanged.
Your comment originally described unwanted political speech, but implied that the speech was actually fake news. I called you out on that, my comment was roughly "That is a good description of political speech. It is not a description of hate speech or fake news". Then you edited your comment to add in a description of fake news. Specifically, you added this: "And others claim that long term use of thermometers could be damaging to kids health, which completely misses the fact that such devices are entirely passive instruments." This anecdote is a good description of fake news. So now my comment appears as if I claimed that this fake news is not fake news. So you essentially edited your comment to make me appear like a conspiracy nut. And now you're lying about what you did.
Your comment about fake news is about masks. The context of that is clear. My comment cannot retroactively change the context of a comment I’m replying to.
Though this is another good example of why I gave up with Facebook (and an increasing tendency I’ve noticed on HN too): conversations get really meta really quickly. When peoples views are based on opinion rather than science it’s impossible to hold a conversation with anyone because you cannot cite opinion. Thus conversations quickly degrade into meta arguments where opinions are “proven” by boring their opponents via “death by a thousand paper cuts”. It becomes as worthwhile as debating atheism with a priest (people are entitled to opinions but arguing over beliefs is never going to end well for either party).
So the smarter thing to do here is me to duck out of the conversation now.
It can’t. Period. That’s simply not how conversations work.
I mean if you cannot agree in that basic premise then there’s no hope in ever having a contextually specific conversation because someone can just shift the goal posts whenever it suits them and claim that was always the narrative.
> It can’t. Period. That’s simply not how conversations work.
This is the most pedantic nitpick I have ever seen. Yes, current events can not modify historical events, because time travel is impossible. That said, it is possible to fool outside observers (in the future) by editing a previous comment.
It’s not a pedantic nitpick if the sole premise of your replies is repeatedly arguing the opposite position. This post, however, is a pedantic nitpick ;)
And no, I cannot fool outside observers because I didn’t edit your post which contained the context you defined. To that regard, I’m as much an observer as anyone else.
Honestly, I wish I took my own advice about not engaging in stupid meta arguments.
> And no, I cannot fool outside observers because I didn’t edit your post which contained the context you defined.
You say "Vegans are awful."
I say "I disagree 100%"
You edit your post to say "Nazis are bad."
Now the outside observer sees 2 posts, one by you saying that "Nazis are bad", and the next post by me, saying "I disagree 100%". Thus, you have fooled an outside observer to think that I don't think Nazis are bad.
> To that regard, I’m as much an observer as anyone else.
No you're not, you have knowledge that "I disagree 100%" was in response to vegans being awful, but an outside observer who comes in late will not have that knowledge.
Even putting aside that I didn’t edit anything out of my post, unlike the ridiculous Nazi analogy you made, I couldn’t have changed the context of your post because you posted it before my opening comment
Or to use you’re ridiculous nazi analogy, I’m the one replying, not the one making the ridiculous nazi comments.
You cannot force intelligent people to read your mindless drivel just because you consider it “political”. And “mindless drivel” is exactly how I viewed the baseless debates against masks, vaccines, public health and such like.
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I really didn’t. I just added some personal anecdotes in a subsequent paragraph to describe why I personally quit Facebook. The body of what you replied to was unchanged.