fascist? Many of these types are hard core leftist hippie types, just as if not more liable to vote for deep green or progressive candidates. Please, not every stupidity need be attributed to the right. That's just absurd bias.
From personal experience, I've witnessed "leftist hippie types" become fascist assholes spouting batshit insane anti-semitic bullshit after watching a few youtube videos. If you care for the person, you have to treat them with respect and de-escalate through rational conversation. This takes time and considerable effort. What makes it so mind-numbing is that you know the person you're talking to is otherwise somewhat intelligent (they've lasted this long) and capable of thinking it through. I don't care what you're political views are, this bullshit is indiscriminate. As Rob Corddry once said, "The facts have a well-known liberal bias."
Many on the progressive or even classic left are indeed strongly anti Semitic due to their support for Palestine and the Arabs against Israel. Much of this is based in very valid arguments against Isreali government policies, but it can easily veer into the downright visceral against jews in that region. It's not just a fascist idea.
Fully agreed, which is why I specifically mentioned that there are valid criticisms and people who use those as a springboard for actual anti-semitism.
I only mentioned what I've witnessed. To say "Many on the progressive or even classic left" is hyperbole. Consider using a specific example instead of hearsay. You don't want people thinking you're a disingenuous shill, do you?
That's the thing. The political "spectrum" isn't really real. Extremism comes in lots of fun flavors.
What the new-age hippie leftist types and the far-right evangelicals have in common, apart from a fairly casual relationship with objective truth and a deep distrust of the state, is that they favor a simplistic, absolutist Lord-of-the-rings-esque good-vs-evil style framing of the world. Fascism and vaguely occult symbolism have a long history of symbiosis. This renders New Age types with their laissez-faire attitude to new memes easy prey for propaganda merchants.
Nowhere did parent categorise these people as 'right'. Merely observed that this group is not far away (and IMHO in process of) being coopted, by largely fascist types (at least overhere in Europe).
Sure they have, no doubt, especially the Nazis, but aside from these extremes, most conservative movements (without necessarily being fascist, because it's a fairly specific ideology) tend no more towards weird and completely irrational conspiracy beliefs than do many new age hippie types with strong left-leaning tendencies. Did the whole bunch of you completely miss finding out about the late 60s to early 70s? It was full of cult movements, insane conspiracy beliefs and rigidly unreal dogmas that had a strong leftist or even marxist flavor. Having ideologically tendency shouldn't leave one blind to entire historical tendencies.
So, we agree: so-called "lefty" new age types are prone to whacko conspiracy theories and are dangerously politically unstable, in the same way as the "alt right" that gets so much more attention. That was literally the point I was making.
It's a little worrying that you got so defensive because I used the word "fascism".
In that case apologies, I misunderstood you to be claiming that this sort of emotional instability was uniquely the domain of people who fall into fascism.
