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Well it’s nice to get some insight into Dynamicland, even if it’s not very flattering.

I do wonder if the project is still under active development. I imagine it’s very frustrating to not have much to show after more than half a decade of development.




> I do wonder if the project is still under active development.

They've publicly acknowledged that they're still working but have been quiet.

> I imagine it’s very frustrating to not have much to show after more than half a decade of development.

Yes and No. I think, rightly so, they are concerned about pre-mature commercialization. Tech transfer in HCI-like domains can often be wrought with issues:

"The Dynamic Medium Group’s vision is rooted in the idea that the computer revolution of the ’70s and early ’80s was cut short, primarily by premature com­mer­cia­li­za­tion. While the computer as a medium was still unfolding its potential, and way before it could do so entirely, it was solidified into commercial products, thereby stifling its free growth. Once corporations had built their businesses on the ideas developed so far, they were only interested in incremental change that could easily be integrated into the products, rather than revolutionary new ideas.

Because of this cautionary tale and to avoid repeating history, the group is wary when it comes to public attention and deliberately reserved in what it shares. "

However, I do think that getting ongoing feedback & recognition of impact is important even in long-term research efforts. This was hinted at in Glen's note on why he left Dynamicland: http://glench.com/WhyIQuitTechAndBecameATherapist/

The saddest observation through all this is ... why don't academia or corporate research labs do this type of long-term, personal computing focused research anymore? It's never been easier to build a computer or an operating system, but nobody has the appetite for it anymore. Maybe people feel that operating systems and computers in their current form are here to stay forever. Maybe the most we can do is port things clumsily to VR or AR.


Hello it's me Glench, from the note.

I think you reading into the workings of Dynamicland from my note is a little misguided. I made that note to talk about my own personal needs, not about how the lab worked.

Even though my personal interest no longer lies in pursuing it, Dynamicland to me remains the most visionary, furthest-thinking research on human-computer interaction that exists today. It really is a research project with a 100+ year vision.


Fair enough -- my mistake then. I would edit / delete if I still could but I think HN has a edit timeout


No worries!


on Glen's note: A few paragraphs in, I got a sense that person's sudden revelation and change in career was due to psychedelics. Searched for "LSD" ah, there it is. "In several sessions over months I took LSD alone in my house with an eyeshade on listening to music." There seems to be common writing patterns from people who've used psychedelics heavily.


Bret Victor: “Maybe it takes a hundred years. It was a hundred years from the invention of the printing press to books being part of the general culture.”

From a different article: https://tashian.com/articles/dynamicland/




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