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A word to the owner: eating every four hours is probably a reason you feel like shit. Fasting is not a bad thing. I stopped eating breakfast over a decade ago, it actually made me feel better in the mornings.



Everyone's different. I can skip lunch occasionally, but never breakfast. Also, nowhere does it say that the reader needs to stuff themselves till they're uncomfortably full every four hours!


The issue that I take with this website (and by the looks of things, many other people do, too) is that it's assuming _there is no way you cannot be eating anything right now_ without being hungry (there was no option for, "no, and I'm not hungry").

Their advice is: "You feel like shit? Eat some food." I have an issue with that, and I'm surprised you do not.


I most certainly do not believe in eating to remedy feeling shitty. That's _your_ conclusion :)

I was merely taking exception to the _opposite_ point of view that eating less, to the point of skipping one or more meals a day, was universally good for everyone, without exception.


> I can skip lunch occasionally, but never breakfast.

That's because you're addicted and you're experiencing withdrawals symptoms. Just like when I tried to stop coffee, I felt like shit for days/weeks before my body went back to its baseline.

People are used to eat three meals a day and your hormone cycles adjusted to that schedule, now if you skip a meal your body feels like it's starving even though you probably have weeks if not months of stored energy.

> Everyone's different.

Not really, different conditioning but mostly similar response to food intake.


How are you so confident with your diagnosis? Are you a qualified medical researcher? Not snarky, genuinely curious. A sample size of one does not a clinical trial make.


It's not a sample size of one, we're millions doing intermittent fasting and it's been studied a lot. After a while you basically don't have cravings anymore, especially for sweet things. Most people have no idea and no desire to know about how their body work but once you got the basics you can tweak things to your advantage instead of being a slave to food

From the studies I looked at this is due to how your body handles hunger, hunger seems to mostly be caused by an hormone called ghrelin (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghrelin)

Ghrelin seems to be secreted by your body, not only when it _needs_ food but also when it anticipates food (that's why you start craving food after seeing a tasty food video/ad), now for the funny part, it also is influenced by meal timing, meaning that if you eat every day at regular interval your level of ghrelin will go up and peak slightly before the actual meal. And this is why most people "trained" to eat three times a day every single day of their life can't skip one meal without feeling bad, even if they have 0 physical activity they'll still crave food. As the wiki points out it's also part of the dopamine reward system

https://academic.oup.com/endo/article/147/1/23/2499980

> Consistent with previous data from other species including humans, there is a learned, preprandial increase of plasma ghrelin when individuals have been trained to anticipate their food at a fixed time.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5033008/

> The constant abundance of palatable foods together to the excessive stress levels that we suffer in modern societies places the ghrelin/GHSR‐1A system in a new role in which it likely cause adverse consequences, including overeating beyond metabolic need and body weight gain. Therefore, the action of ghrelin on the mesolimbic system may have been a ‘great spice’ from an evolutionary perspective, although it no longer represents an advantage for modern human beings

https://medium.com/personal-growth/does-fasting-cause-or-cur...


Thank you for the links, will take a look at them at length.

Based on your mention of sugary stuff, just wanted to mention that I hardly ever consume (processed) sugar, least of all at breakfast.


I used to not be able to skip breakfast at all, but I trained. Now I can fast until dinner.


>Everyone's different.

Most of differences of this kind is due to habbit than some unique psysiology.

With some time spent, one could easily learn to skip breakfast and be fine (or start eating it and be fine).


Key point being "most", I'd think?


what you're saying is... humans are plastic


Yes, and more precisely that "I'm different" for things like above is more often than not due to habbits and cultural/family/learnt preferences than to some unique physiology or body needs.


I'd be interested in knowing the reasoning behind that conclusion.


I think a far better question is "have you drunk any water in the last 2 hours"

Most of the time I think I'm hungry, I'm actually thirsty. Take now for example, I've just eaten lunch and a coffee, but I'm feeling like I could really do with an apple (I had one for breakfast). I suspect that's because I'm dehydrated rather than hungry.

Instead it's the other way round (have you eaten? If yes, drink water)




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