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What? All 30% of smartphone users with Android in the US are scammers?

I use a Google Voice number as my primary number and have for over ten years.




The statement isn't "most Android users are scammers," but "most scammers use Android."

I personally would be less likely to respond from a dating app or marketplace app in particular. Google Voice numbers are less traceable and more easily replaceable, which makes them more viable for scammers.


I don't fully understand this line of thinking. The vast, vast majority of Android users do not use Google Voice. They just have a different phone operating system than your phone.

I mean, your preferences are your own, and if you prefer to only date iPhone users, that's weird, but you're entitled. I am just struggling to understand the Google Voice connection here.


I was addressing the specific commenter who uses Google Voice, but to use the comment prior to that:

> It's a negative signal to me if it's green, as they may be using a Google Voice number or any other fake number system.

I'm not implying the vast majority of "green-bubble numbers" are Google Voice rather than Android phones, but that there is no verification they are not Google Voice numbers.

I'm not trying to be elitist at all; there's just a verification that happens with an iPhone texting another iPhone of (1) this is a real phone number, and (2) this isn't a cheap burner flip-phone someone just bought. When interacting with strangers from the internet, that verification is important!


" ... but that there is no verification they are not Google Voice numbers ..."

This isn't unknowable ... why don't you just check ?

  curl -s -X GET "https://lookups.twilio.com/v1/PhoneNumbers/$number?Type=carrier&Type=caller-name" -u $accountsid:$authtoken | /usr/local/bin/jq '.'
... or, if you're non-technical, just use mycarrierlookup.tv or checkcarrier.estonia or whatever ... there are 20 or more such sites extant.


I don’t think I’ve ever gotten a spam iMessage, but I get at least one green message from a spammer daily. And I doubt they’re using Android, it’s probably Twilio or other sketchier telecom providers.

This is ultimately a problem because regular SMS has zero authentication, whereas I iMessage is essentially walled off to legit users by the telephone carriers and Apple.


I’ve NEVER gotten a spam or phish from a blue bubble. 100% are green.

Green could be any type of source. Android, Twilio, google voice, who knows.

But if a random number comes in and it’s green, more often than not it’s spam. If it’s blue, more often then not there’s a real person behind it.


I've never got a phishing message at all. And the last spam message I got was 6+ months ago. I guess at some point Google figured out spam SMS blocking, or some other event has drastically decreased the rate of spam messages.


Yeah but if you see blue you have way more confidence that you are talking to a real person…




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