Pigeonholing commenters is kind of patronizing, isn't it? Those general arguments, in the right context and with the right facts, can all be reasonably made.
"The right context" is over a bottle of good wine, an offer open to anyone who happens by the same corner of the world I happen to be in. I didn't mean to be patronizing; there are smart people I respect that take those views, merely to 'head them off at the pass'.