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What about all the negative outcomes from continuing all the restrictions?



Still less severe than long covid, sorry.


Persistence of various symptoms in people who recovered from COVID-19 (collectively called Long COVID) is a major health issue worldwide. It could be due to various mechanisms such as post-intensive care syndrome, post-viral fatigue syndrome, permanent organ damage or others. Proper clinical evaluation will help identify the etiology, and to customize treatment. As the disease is new, it is too early to know the true long-term outlook.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8056514/


That's saying long covid is bad but we don't know just how bad until more time passes.


Your point being?


I was somewhat skeptical about long covid. The linked article summarizes the known facts well and outlines conjectures for causes.


I think mask mandates and ratcheting up the pressure to get vaccinated is a far better use of the "restriction budget" than full lockdowns on the entire population, yes. Lockdowns on people who aren't yet vaccinated by choice seem pretty great to me.


Your living in delta but the vaccine doesn't help as much in this new variant era. That means lockdowns for all. Still sound great?


What is the evidence to suggest that? Seems like vaccinated people have had pretty mild cases so far.


Why should a vaccinated person wear a mask? Do vaccines not work? What is the point of getting one if I still have to wear a mask?

Naw. Masks need to go away.


Because all of these things work at population level, not necessarily at an individual level.

Masks reduce the amount of aerosols a person emits, thereby reducing the distance and amount of viral particles an infected person can spread in any given situation.

As a side benefit some masks protect the wearer to an extent, particularly N95s, but the main purpose is to reduce spread from infected people in the first place.

Vaccines, similarly, are not a magic shield that protect you from even getting COVID. Instead, they dramatically reduce your likelihood of getting severely ill and being hospitalised and reduce the duration of disease therefore also reducing transmission. But that only works if enough people are vaccinated that the cumulative effect of that reduced transmission can meaningfully bring down the R0 value.

This pandemic has exposed how few people are able to consider issues or questions at a broader community level versus merely how it affects them directly.


It's not binary.




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