On: Octopuses, crabs and lobsters to be recognised as ...

[margalabargala]

That's not their philosophy, it's the opposite of it. Their point is more in line with something like "the ability to sense pain is not related to sentience and is not special", not "if something can sense pain, it is therefore not sentient and is not special".

[colordrops → margalabargala]

Are you suggesting that sentience is required to suffer from pain? Or that suffering isn't a problem unless you are sentient?

[tekromancr → margalabargala]

Uh, actually, it seems from their later posts that that is precisely their philosophy.