On: Microsoft Edge’s new ‘Buy now, pay later’ feature is the definition of bloatware

[FormerBandmate]

Edge is incredible in terms of UI (vertical tabs and collections are incredible), but I switched from Chrome because it was less bloaty and spyish. It's quickly becoming worse than Chrome here, it's like they're doing everything they can to make me switch to Vivaldi or Brave

[michalstanko → FormerBandmate]

Both Vivaldi and Brave have their advantages, but I had switched away from them. Vivaldi was too slow at times and some keyboard shortcuts in some apps (Google Docs, etc.) didn't work. Brave doesn't support Netflix and some other streaming services (for a noble reason, I believe, but - in the end, it just didn't work).

I used to love and use Opera back in 2000's. These days, I can't find a single browser that has all I want, so I ended up using multiple ones all the time.

[sph → michalstanko]

The world revolves on the Internet, and all browsers are absolute crap, for one reason or the other. As software engineers, we should be ashamed it's got to this point.

The thing that saddens me the most is what Mozilla has become. Now the choice is who we get spied from, or Safari which is available only if you're willing to be tied to Apple's walled garden.

If only Brave could pull their head out of the crypto ass and release a decent, crypto free and paid version of their browser. But crypto pays more, like spying pays more, so we're left with shitty software running the world.

/rant

[pid-1 → sph]

+1

I want to pay for stuff so I know the services I buy have good incentives.

I'm currently using Fastmail, 1Password and trying out Zorin OS. A paid browser would be an awesome addition to the stack.

[benbristow → pid-1]

> A paid browser would be an awesome addition to the stack

And we're back to Netscape and early Opera again! History tends to repeat itself.

[mminer237 → michalstanko]

Brave definitely supports Netflix. It just asks if you want to enable DRM first. It's an option, like in Firefox, but it shouldn't be hard to enable at all. It asks you when needed.

[michalstanko → mminer237]

I apologize, last time I tried there wasn't yet this simple popup dialog Brave shows now, and I had issues making Netflix work in Brave some ~1.5 years ago.

[MrZander → michalstanko]

What do you mean Brave doesn't support Netflix? I've never had any issues.

[behnamoh → FormerBandmate]

It seems you're also doing everything you can to avoid the good old Firefox!

But seriously, I switched from Chrome to FF a year ago and never looked back. It's way different than the FF we used to know.

[pxc → behnamoh]

> It's way different than the FF we used to know.

I've been using Firefox continuously since v0.8. What do you mean by this?

[behnamoh → pxc]

There was this (mis)conception a while ago about FF's speed compared to Chrome. Also, its UI looked a bit outdated (not that you couldn't skin it) compared to Chrome, Opera, etc. But with the recent changes in the past 2-3 years, FF has proven once again to be superior in almost all aspects. It even looks and feels more modern than Chrome. Couple that with the way the redesigned the mobile app (esp. on Android) and you get users like me who ditch Chrome on all platforms and start using FF again.