> I haven't seen a lot of evidence as of late that refraining from segregating them is having any positive impact.
Have we been refraining from that? They got mass banned from the biggest social media platforms and dumped into Gab and such like.
> What sort of reasoned debate should we expect to have with people who think a man who died 22 years ago in a plane crash isn't dead?
Encourage them to go to the place where he's alleged to show up. Have them commit in advance to admitting that if he doesn't, they were wrong. Then he won't, because he died 22 years ago in a plane crash.
You'll have convinced some of them. Now recruit those to help you convince the others. They'll be more believable because of the shared experience and because they understand the language of that subculture.
The whole thing has the hallmarks of a scam. If somebody is making money off of this somehow, figure out who it is. Expose them.
Figure out what else they believe. Identify the things that can be falsified. Falsify them.
"You're wrong, you're banned" doesn't do any of that, and then the only place they're accepted with their broken ideas is in a place full of other people who believe the same things and reinforce their nonsense.
Have we been refraining from that? They got mass banned from the biggest social media platforms and dumped into Gab and such like.
> What sort of reasoned debate should we expect to have with people who think a man who died 22 years ago in a plane crash isn't dead?
Encourage them to go to the place where he's alleged to show up. Have them commit in advance to admitting that if he doesn't, they were wrong. Then he won't, because he died 22 years ago in a plane crash.
You'll have convinced some of them. Now recruit those to help you convince the others. They'll be more believable because of the shared experience and because they understand the language of that subculture.
The whole thing has the hallmarks of a scam. If somebody is making money off of this somehow, figure out who it is. Expose them.
Figure out what else they believe. Identify the things that can be falsified. Falsify them.
"You're wrong, you're banned" doesn't do any of that, and then the only place they're accepted with their broken ideas is in a place full of other people who believe the same things and reinforce their nonsense.