> "Asking the developers to say no to the managers"
I never said we should. "Teams" includes everyone. And engineers do have cachet to push for things.
> "I never said that"
I never said or implied you did, it was a general statement.
> "It would just take time. Time that we can't really take"."If our clients don't ask for speed"
Here's what I've been saying: not taking time to estimate how much time it would really take (or even if it's needed) is nowhere near as bad as saying that "a PhD is needed for that", but it is bad. Also, acting reactively is also bad. Maybe your software is already good enough, but not knowing is also an issue.
I never said we should. "Teams" includes everyone. And engineers do have cachet to push for things.
> "I never said that"
I never said or implied you did, it was a general statement.
> "It would just take time. Time that we can't really take". "If our clients don't ask for speed"
Here's what I've been saying: not taking time to estimate how much time it would really take (or even if it's needed) is nowhere near as bad as saying that "a PhD is needed for that", but it is bad. Also, acting reactively is also bad. Maybe your software is already good enough, but not knowing is also an issue.