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Really, really, really good engineers with keyword-compliant resumes walk in the door on Wall Street at 175k. I'm having a hard time with your numbers.



Sure, but what does that have to do with SV startups?


Valley engineers make less than Wall Street engineers --- COLA and scarcity.

(Sorry, you asked.)


Cash compensation, yes. Total compensation -- I am arguing otherwise. SV engineers are asked to take more risk, and perhaps to sacrifice quality of life more. Thus higher expected compensation. That $175k in NY is probably $200k after bonus, so it makes sense that SV would be more.

Another way to look at it is that new grad is now close to $100k. The experienced guy is easily 10 times more productive. But only gets 1.5 in salary. So, he also gets 5-10 times as much equity, and that's valued because historically it made good money.


$100k?? Are you speaking from direct experience, because none of the companies in the valley I know pay anywhere close to that.


New grad is making almost $100k? WHOA!

How bad is the working environment on the valley?




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