On: Uber and Lyft don't save money, time, or the plane...

[ClumsyPilot]

People use single-use unrecycleable plastic, unhealthy food and capsule coffee machines, all are unnessesary, net negative to society but enable lazyness and are a great business.

[lexapro → ClumsyPilot]

Unnecessary maybe, but those things undoubtedly offer value.

[ClumsyPilot → lexapro]

Slaves offer value too, what conclusion should I draw from this?

[Nasrudith → ClumsyPilot]

What should you conclude about the fact all serial killers in recent memory used soap at some point in your life?

[ClumsyPilot → Nasrudith]

That's the point, that's why I don't go around commenting "he used soap too!", but somehow "But they offer value!" is a valid contribution to debate? Not just valid, but prevalent throughout HN?

[echopurity → ClumsyPilot]

The fact that destroying the planet and ruining people's lives is "good business" is a major part of the problem.