> Why do you assume programming langauges with female coded names are because the creator is viewing it as a girlfriend?
I am not assuming that. I was just comparing it to the situation with cars.
> Not all creators are heterosexual males (or otherwise oriented toward females as preferred or even acceptable romantic partners), and even those that are don’t necessarily view women exclusively through the lens of romantic involvement such that that would be the implication of a female name.
I wasn't implying such a thing. But I knew a woke person was going to point it out to me anyway. Funny.
> Janet is named after a character that is expressly not a woman
The logo of the programming language is the face of an attractive woman wearing a lipstick and a fancy hairdo. Also, Janet is portrayed by a woman in the Good Place. Don't tell me that the name of the language has nothing to do with a woman.
> Why are female-coded names a particular issue
I don't think it is an issue. I was just thinking out loud.
Well you did say: "this may be the nerd's way of immortalizing their sweetheart", which seems to me to strongly imply that your impression may be closer to assuming it than to not assuming it.
I have no horse in this race (I'm not the one who replied to your original comment), but it did seem like you were assuming something awful close to what you are denying.
In my world saying that "something may be something for other people" doesn't equal to "personally assuming that something is something". But I understand where you come from.
For me the thinking & debating exercises doesn't have to involve taking a position personally. Sometimes I just want to focus on the argument. My own position & assumptions are irrelevant.
For that reason I don't appreciate it when somebody makes an assumption regarding my assumptions to attack myself instead of focusing on the argument.
I don't see anything in dragonwriter's response that attacks you and not your argument. Perhaps you just disagree with the phrasing, but to me, "you assume" in this context is short for "you assume in your argument" or "your argument assumes" and it still looks valid.
> "you assume" in this context is short for "you assume in your argument" or "your argument assumes" and it still looks valid
An argument doesn't assume, but it states. Assumption is something people do. When somebody makes a statement regarding "what an argument assumes", the meaning is that they are speculating beyond what the argument is stating.
So I don't agree with you, but thank you for the discussion.
An argument assumes if it doesn't back up the assertion with reasoning. For an argument to state, it needs more; as written, it wasn't really an argument to begin with. It was just a theoretical supposition.
Yes, I guess mine was more of a theoretical supposition. It was actually just an observation. Yet a moment later I wasn't really talking about that anymore, but making a more general statement regarding the exercise of debate.
Thank you for playing the role of the logic police. I guess it can sometimes be unreasonably hard to talk in a simple forum like this in a chill manner without having to deal with people's (IMO) misplaced pedantry. So be it. I'll try to be more scientific the next time.
Hey, I'm just trying to explain what your comments look like to someone not involved in the original conversation, since I agreed with the statement that you objected to. Not sure where this passive aggressive defensiveness is coming from.
I am not assuming that. I was just comparing it to the situation with cars.
> Not all creators are heterosexual males (or otherwise oriented toward females as preferred or even acceptable romantic partners), and even those that are don’t necessarily view women exclusively through the lens of romantic involvement such that that would be the implication of a female name.
I wasn't implying such a thing. But I knew a woke person was going to point it out to me anyway. Funny.
> Janet is named after a character that is expressly not a woman
The logo of the programming language is the face of an attractive woman wearing a lipstick and a fancy hairdo. Also, Janet is portrayed by a woman in the Good Place. Don't tell me that the name of the language has nothing to do with a woman.
> Why are female-coded names a particular issue
I don't think it is an issue. I was just thinking out loud.
Take it easy.