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On multiple occasions, I've stumbled upon really old high school physics textbooks and they usually had a chapter on the physics of musical frequencies. It seems to be a weirdly forgotten subject.

The octave is a doubling/halving of frequencies, and so is very recognizable. The fifth is the next lowest whole number frequency ratio 3/2, 2/3. So liberal use of fifth interval makes notes often end up low whole number ratio frequencies of each other which sounds harmonious.




> It seems to be a weirdly forgotten subject.

I was fortunate to have had the opportunity to take a Physics of Music course in college that counted as the physics requirement.

It was really nice to have the mysteries what makes music appealing be an academic focus for the summer. We even had a project at the end where we built an instrument. I made a fairly rudimentary xylophone with some pipes and a hand pipe cutter.


> The octave is a doubling/halving of frequencies

Side note: Except when in praxis you have to accord for non-perfect masses, then you have to stretch the tuning.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stretched_tuning


Also, if I remember correctly, every note in the major scale is a 3/2,2/3 ratio from a note in the lower or higher octave following the standard order of key signatures as you jump across consecutive octaves, which, I assume, is how they arrived at that standard order.


That’s called “Pythagorean tuning” and it’s possible but it’s not especially common. The system we use is a compromise derived from that system. If you use pure 3:2 ratios you get the so-called “wolf tones”, but we don’t get those any more.

The current most common system is equal temperament, which is a type of meantone tuning, where you take the 3:2 ratio and alter it. Equal temperament alters it to 2^(7/12) ≈ 1.4983, and it has the nice property that you get twelve notes and it’s all perfectly symmetrical, it doesn't matter which note you start on.

Before equal temperament, there were various other systems. One popular one was quarter-comma meantone, which took four stacked 3:2 ratios (81:16) and squashed them to equal two octaves and a 5:4 ratio (80:16), which results in a value of 5^(1/4) ≈ 1.4953. You see it in some old organs—which may have, say, separate keys for G# and Ab.

Then there are various non-meantone tunings, various “just” intonations, etc. In just intonation, a chord like C E G will have a 4:5:6 ratio. You can’t do this with all major triads, though, so you end up with some major triads that sound correct and others that sound out of tune. Our modern system is a compromise where all major triads are equally out of tune, rather than having some better and some worse.


Wolf tones are certain notes which don't sound very well which vary between instruments due to their construction. I think you mean the Pythagorean comma.


Actually, "wolf interval".

Pythagorean comma is the difference between enharmonic notes in Pythagorean tuning, e.g., difference between Ab and G#. Not what I was talking about.

With any 12-tone system, you might have eleven fifths which are 700-x cents wide, on average... and then a diminished sixth (rather than a fifth), which is necessarily 700+11x cents wide as a result. The "wolf interval" is the diminished sixth (commonly G# to Eb, or C# to Ab). In equal temperament, the diminished sixth is equal to a fifth. You might also call something other than a fifth a wolf interval. Basically, an interval which normally sounds good, except you chose an enharmonic version of it, which sounds bad.

"The" wolf interval is the quarter-comma meantone diminished sixth, which is 2^7 / 5^(11/4) = 1.5312. The Pythagorean wolf interval is 2^7 / (3/2)^11 = 1.4798. It's equal to a perfect fifth, minus the Pythagorean comma.


I see. I was confused because string players talk a lot about our wolf notes/wolf tones (especially violists and cellists), but I hadn't come across the term wolf interval.


That's because these tuning systems have been out of favor since about 1700. You might encounter some organists who know about it, but even then, there are only a handful of organs tuned this way in North America.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meantone_organs_in_North_Ameri...

It was Werckmeister who popularized and advocated systems which don't have wolf intervals (so-called "well temperament", as in "Bach's well-tempered clavier". The composers who cared about wolf intervals generally predate Bach, to give you an idea.

Nowadays (since the 1980s) I can press a button and put my synthesizer or electronic piano in whatever tuning I want, so I can play with quarter-comma meantone temperament without finding one of the organs on the list, and experience it myself.


You are talking of the same thing. The typical wolf tone in quarter comma meantone was G#-Eb, which sounded so bad that some instruments added a separate key for Ab.


The physics of music comes up a bunch in music production. When working with different waveforms, filter types and specific bass frequencies, you always have to make sure you know what your spectrum looks like, or you'll have phase issues, or you won't hit the desired levels for each instrument and so on. You end up staring at fundamentals and harmonics a lot in order to get the timbres and the mix you have in mind.




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