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Yeah, a bit disappointing. Sometimes it's just nice to nerd out and get away from politics. I don't want or need to know every single person or group's ideologies. And certainly not every single time I visit.



If you nerd out and interact with other people, you can't ever get away from politics. Even stating to others in public here on HN that you wish to "get away from politics" is itself a (hypocritical) political action.

Nerd out alone with offline docs and you can avoid it. Interact with others and politics are involved as a matter of necessity.

To pretend that there is any apolitical social space is farce.

People cannot be separated from their ideologies. If you wish to avoid ideologies, avoid people.


It's a programming language website. To do its job effectively, it doesn't need to devote screen real estate to racial justice, police brutality, child sex trafficking, cancer awareness, gun safety, climate change, domestic abuse, regional famines, or any other myriad of important (sometimes political) issues. It's not hypocritical to desire a "separation of concerns".


> To do its job effectively, it doesn't need to devote screen real estate to racial justice

That is a matter of opinion that reasonable people disagree about.

Again, people are inseparable from their ideology. If you don't like hearing about ideology (like I don't like having to see crucifix necklaces), avoid people and you won't have that problem.


There's a difference between an individual, inobtrusive fashion choice, and something being given a unique, global position of importance.

You can't separate people entirely from their ideology, but you can separate them much more than we currently do.

(For that matter, which "person" is the go.dev website, that we cannot separate ideologies from?)


No, seperation is a very reasonable position. Some US-based developers and companies tend to forget that not only their ideology is not fully supported within their own country but more importantly that the rest of the world, even if not vocal about, often disagree. There are a lot of different cultures, values and opinions around the world (you know, the actual diversity) and inevitably one political opinion good for virtue signaling points in the US will rub people elsewhere in the wrong way. Pushing it too hard will also produce opposite result by polarizing people more. Some people/culture won't change anyway (cough cough 800 millions USD for promoting women rights in Afghanistan). So stop your cultural imperialism and let the professional stuff separated from your myopic politics.


This is just a depressing view of people. While it may often be the case, it's not absolute. I just watched a movie last night, and while not a great movie and definitely dramaticized, was based on a true story. Of a (now former) KKK member voting to integrate schools. People are much more complex than I believe you give them credit for.

And that's another issue is that people aren't so one dimensional. For example, many BLM people aren't on the LBGTQ train. Many Trumpers aren't antivaxxers. Many Libertarians aren't anarchists. Point being, there's not a ton you can draw from a crucifix.

As for the movie, CP Ellis is the man's name, if you care to read about him.


Thanks for sharing that story about CP Ellis, it's nice to know people can change.


Agreed on most counts, but I don't see go.dev as a social space. Perhaps we define that differently.

I also don't find politics in personal interactions a necessity, more an indulgence or some primal urge. I know, I've slipped many times before into it for no justifiable reason. Trying to be better.


"Getting away from politics" is commonly understood as shorthand for "entering a place with minimal/insignificant/infinitesimal politics". Similarly, you might describe yourself as getting "away from the humidity" even if you've moved from a coast to a desert (keeping in mind that even in a desert, the humidity is always nonzero).

See also: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/dLJv2CoRCgeC2mPgj/the-fallac....




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