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[flemhans]

At the same time, "Master Planned" areas in actual Europe tend to be super horrible to live in, due to the detachment from what actually makes a place livable. (And the transportation part is generally already solved in Europe).

Here in Copenhagen, everybody loves the 100-200 year old areas way more than the newly built ones.

[jusssi → flemhans]

Wouldn't a 100-200 year old city area be much more likely to have originally been "Master Planned" than a modern development?

[Ericson2314 → jusssi]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Town,_Edinburgh and quite nice too.

The undercurrent behind https://www.leidenmedievalistsblog.nl/articles/why-medieval-... is our romanticized notion of the past actually under-emphasizes the planning that did occur. After those overzealous tower-and-park modernists, we did a big romantic counterrevolution in aesthetics that ironically justifies the even more current neoliberal weak state planning as the default.

I recommend https://www.currentaffairs.org/2017/10/why-you-hate-contempo... for trying to weave the needle right for yes planning but also yes a little relativism and humility.