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I agree, and I'm not even clear on what "grow" means. Like, literally increase global GDP? Increase some measure of productivity? Because already there's all sorts of contradictions in our society's "advancement."

Productivity is increasing, but wages are decreasing.

Country net worth is increasing, but happiness is decreasing.

Etc.

When I read these kinds of posts, I think about "stagnate." It feels like an inherently negative word. I know that most people value a constantly improving technology, but as my OP says, technology can "improve" while, say, net worth or GDP "stagnates." Even leaving that to the side, I don't feel like "stagnated" technological advancement is inherently bad. It's just a value many of us hold.

Not to get primitivist, but, humans really were just eating berries and vibing for a really long time. I don't think we should "return to monkey," but if we get to the point where we figure out that we can't really defeat death, it might then become time for society to instead start thinking about living the way a cancer patient with a deadline does: how can we find meaning, knowing the end is inevitable? Sure yeah meaning could be still trying to advance, but given that current modes of technological advancement often involve capitalist exploitation and general misery (which isn't REQUIRED but we seem to be really big fans of it cause we keep doing it), perhaps we could decide to let go and just live happily with "technological stagnation."




The kind of stagnation we're talking about could accelerate inequality to the point that the french revolution looks like a rowdy ska scene.


The funny thing about rent seeking on land is that it invites violence once people stop caring whose name is written on the deed.


>>Productivity is increasing, but wages are decreasing.

Wages have increased more in the last 30 years than at any time in history:

https://www.csmonitor.com/World/2016/0207/Progress-in-the-gl...


Wages are stagnating in the developed world and it's mostly because of politics.


Wages are stagnating in the developed mostly because productivity is stagnating:

http://www.brookings.edu/research/opinions/2014/12/22-source...




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