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How can you be so sure if you haven't tried it?

I'd rather use a chat app that takes security matters seriously and urgently and will eventually have E2E.

What's more 'idiotic' is prioritising and bolting on cryptocurrencies [0] than fixing urgent security issues, leaving it for months unfixed, while also claiming to be private and secure, and also requiring your phone number.

[0] https://www.wired.com/story/signal-mobilecoin-payments-messa...




I agree that adding a crypto coin the way they did it is idiotic as well. But I wouldn't ditch an encrypted app for one that will 'eventually' be E2E encrypted. matrix.org is E2E encrypted and secure now and it's being used by France and Germany.


Matrix / Element is unfortunately just far too technical for end users and the general population, but it is better than IRC.

A mistake was the naming, for example you refer to the name of the protocol 'Matrix' instead of the name of the client 'Element'. Having a naming issue risks confusing lots of people, other than that I have already mentioned it as an alternative.


>I'd rather use a chat app that takes security matters seriously and urgently and will eventually have E2E.

Deploying messaging app without E2EE being the first four chars on the security design paper -- even before the product name -- is the opposite of taking security matters seriously.




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