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Debugger drivers worth money? Yes. Worth 10x? No. You get the same benefit by carefully selecting the best-supported hardware for your platform.



Really? It's possible to cram 32 x86 cores and 256G of memory into 4U for $5k and for it all to work? Show me.


Unisys, Fujitsu, Hitachi, and SGI sell 32 processor (and more), and they'll do it for a lot less than Sun will.

However, in most cases, your 32 processor Sun box is replaced by one Quad Core Xeon machine, and it handles the same workload in an eighth the time.

This is why Red Hat don't bother competing with Microsoft - they make the biggest part of their revenue from replacing Sun gear - and two of the four guys I worked with closely at Red Hat were ex-Sun staff.


Yes but that's not what an x4600 is. It is 32 x86 cores and 256G of main memory (and various other bits and pieces like quad gigE and a few disks) and it fits neatly into only 4U of rackspace. Sun makes x86 kit now, didn't you know?


I don't think you addressed his point, which is that you can get the same amount of work done without 32 cores in 4RU by selecting a different, more cost-effective vendor.

Sun does have a slight but well-earned reputation as vanity hardware.


Also I am confused as to how you both seem to think a single quad-core x86 can replace 8 quad-core x86s.


We don't. I'm stating that there are many vendors who will sell high end x86 for cheaper than Sun will sell you Sparc.

Sun on Intel is just another one of those vendors.


Let's say that I'm doing Monte Carlo work in a one-in-one-out datacentre...




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