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I'm on the same side of the argument as you and indeed I believe I feel as strongly about it as you. Especially in regards to brushing it off, calling them script kiddies[1], generally being "well aw shucks aren't I great for not deleting my copy of the data, I'm so great"[2] about the whole thing grinds my gears too.

I'm saying whoever is ransoming the data already has the data, the data is out of Newsblur's control, therefore the data is already leaked.

The data leak is past tense. It has already happened, not will happen. No amount of money will undo that. If that means they've lost you as a customer, that's how it is.

What we now need to know is what data was leaked?

[1]: which to be fair Newsblur, they are, but if a script kiddie hacks you using something so basic as a missing firewall rule.. Arguably not knowing Docker's quirks but using it anyway is the same damn thing as what script kiddies do. Sys kiddie if you will.

[2]: Why is that cause for celebration? Do you not have backups?




There is a material difference to users between a single attacker having (and possibly ignoring) a data dump, and that attacker publishing that dump publically, or selling it to someone who plans to exploit its contents.

The attacker has offered to not publish if they are paid. Their word probably isn't worth much, but $1,000 seems like an affordable sum for a business to gamble on them being honest about it. And if Newsblur doesn't fix their security problems they'll be targeted again either way.

As someone who has a decade of data in Newsblur, if there's any chance that an affordable ransom will keep my data from spreading further I want Samuel to take it.


The fact that you believe paying the ransom is even an option shows that you really aren't even qualified to be discussing this topic. People with your mindset are a big part of the reason that ransomware is still going strong. The other big part is people who don't run their systems correctly in the first place.


Giving them $1000 confirms the value, allowing them to list the dump at a higher price than the usual $10-50 spammers would pay (each) for the email addresses alone




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