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Launch HN: Alpas (YC W21) – Software to find suppliers for industrial parts
52 points by NilsVollmer on June 23, 2021 | hide | past | favorite | 21 comments
Hi HN, we are Nils, Isabel, and Chris - the founders of Alpas (https://alpas.ai/). We make it fast and easy for medium to large size manufacturers to find suppliers for industrial parts.

Why does this matter? Buyers at manufacturing companies face high pressure to cut costs. Supplier sourcing is still very manual and takes up to 45% of a buyer's time. Due to the lack of research time, buyers rarely close deals at optimal conditions. Recently, Covid-19 and material shortages have further accelerated the need for more transparent supply chains.

Isabel came across this problem during her work as an investment analyst. She realized that optimizing procurement – the buying of goods and services – is one of the most important ways for industrial firms to save costs: more than 50% of revenue is spent on COGS (Cost of Goods Sold) [1] and sourcing is reported to be the biggest value-driver in procurement [2]. As an investment analyst she was used to a much higher level of data transparency that is available from tools such as Bloomberg or CapitalIQ. Inspired by this, we set out to build a similar experience for buyers at manufacturers.

After talking to lots of buyers, we found out just how manual current sourcing processes still are: managing existing suppliers in spreadsheets, web research to find new suppliers, calling and visiting suppliers on the ground. Most buyers simply don’t have the time to do a thorough supplier discovery, let alone gather all key information about them to make informed decisions.

Solving this problem requires gathering and analyzing supplier and supply chain data from many sources. Building such a tool represents a massive data challenge: gathering, structuring, and indexing 10B+ parameters of 10M+ suppliers worldwide from 500+ data sources. Our two biggest technical challenges are a) providing a standardized mapping of the supplier’s product portfolios and b) continuously tapping into new data sources which need to be incorporated into our existing pipelines. We use NLP models to extract specific keywords in order to create a list of potential supplier candidates. We match the suppliers to various sources using NER, which allows us to filter down candidates based on specific parameters. The result is a final supplier list with detailed information on company facts, products, financials, and much more.

Based on this data, we run sourcing projects with our customers, which means finding suppliers for a specific product and region. Since our launch in January, we have been able to win several Fortune 500 companies, including BASF and ABB, as customers. Using our software, our customers have been able to reduce time and procurement spend significantly. On a recent sourcing project, we helped ABB find new suppliers for a custom lens made out of a special material and even suggested additional suppliers for a different material with similar properties. For this project, we saved ABB 40% in procurement spend and 3 weeks of manual work.

Our sales process begins with a demo exploring our tool with a subset of the customer's existing suppliers. Customers usually continue with a paid pilot - one sourcing project in a certain region. In order to access their data going forward and book more sourcing projects, customers enter into a yearly SaaS contract. Based on our current pricing, we estimate our addressable market to be at $15.8 B.

You can visit our HN-trial signup page (https://alpas.ai/hn-trial-signup) to create a 48-hours trial account for our software with a demo sourcing project. Please note that we usually do a guided onboarding process with our customers and thus have not optimized our software to be self-serve.

We will gladly answer your questions and are excited to hear your thoughts, ideas, and feedback!

[1] http://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/New_Home_Page/datafile/... and https://www.readyratios.com/sec/ratio/gross-margin/

[2] https://www.mckinsey.com/industries/consumer-packaged-goods/...




My kingdom for the Octopart of Grainger/Fastenal/McMaster.


Sounds excellent! The hardware world is still dirty and manual. I feel like an easy step 1 is just to get transparent pricing at all--extremely common still to have to call for a quote for some niche, but catalog, component.


Thanks so much for your comment. Exactly, this is one of the issues we have been seeing: sourcing is extremely manual and results are unsatisfactory in many cases. Another issue is product-supplier fit: matching the right supplier to specific product requirements.


Great work guys! I would love to a see a site like Aliexpress with the depth of Alibaba where you use an image of what you’re looking for to look up parametric models of what you want to buy with live pricing and part rendering. I am thinking about the humongous world of fasteners and simple parts. Looking at the texture of mixed fasteners is like candy awesomeness to me. They are so well defined and standard that you can build out one- shot models to identify them with the right scanning rig. Sorry the future is not flying cars, but awesome part sourcing tools!


Love your enthusiasm for the space! Let's talk about our product pipeline in the next 24 months+


So this is basically a US version of Alibaba?


I believe OP is launching a Premium AI-matching Alibaba, but shameless plug: I'm building a US version of Alibaba at https://reshore.app. Should be launching soon - building out the base line-up of US-based suppliers and manufacturers until then.

If anyone would like a private beta invite please email at hello {at} sunboxlabs.com

I think this is worth building because there is new demand to shorten supply chains, but also for social and environmental reasons.


I am not a user of Alibaba but from what I see it seems like Aliexpress for wholesale. I think that is (1) and (3) from this startup's value proposition (Search and Contact). Value (2) (Compare/Benchmark) could be the differentiating factor depending on how it is implemented.

Also I think these guys will target Europe, specifically the DACH region. Not sure how many competitors they have but I am 100% sure the clients are many and plenty because SAP and the innovation from 90s it brings is considered holy grail of modernization in most of German companies.


Thank you for your question. No, we provide sourcing intelligence based on in-depth supplier and supply chain data. We are not a two-sided platform.


One of many.


Good luck! Tough business to be in.

I was early employee at a b2b marketplace too. I biggest piece of advice is to use a SaaS business model first before any attempt to use rake model.


Just storing this here for anyone else unfamiliar: a rake model is one where you take a commission of gross sales.


Thank you for the clarification, and thank you to the parent comment for the advice!!


Thanks for your message and advice!

We actually use a B2B SaaS model and are not a two-sided B2B marketplace.


Very very interesting. Few questions:

Are you onboarding suppliers on your platform with their own supplier portal for collaboration/chat? Or is only catalog data?

Does the RFI, RFQ etc processes happen within the system or outside?

How does your sourcing software integrate with existing supplier selection modules, contracts lifecycle management modules ( for compliance, audit etc) like SAP or Oracle that might already be deployed by the customer?

Is this similar to SAP ariba or coupa but with catalogs predefined?


Thank you so much for your detailed questions!

As of today, we are not onboarding suppliers onto our platform. We work with a variety of data sources to generate accurate and helpful insights, even without onboarding suppliers.

Users can decide whether they want to run RFX processes from their systems or ours.

Yes, we can integrate with existing procurement solutions like SAP or Oracle as we are complementary to them.

No, we are not similar to SAP Ariba or Coupa. Ariba covers the whole procurement value chain while Coupa focuses on spend management. We focus on sourcing - the highest value driver in the procurement value chain.


Alibaba turned borderline unusable in recent years.

Alibaba's biggest weaknesses:

1. Terrible search, literally worse than FTS

2. Category management is atrocious

3. Spam

4. False price/terms fillings

5. Terrible, borderline uselss UI. Megatons of popups

6. Slooow as molasses

7. Verification experience is random. Can be 1 minute check, can be multi-months process taking few kilobucks.

8. Terrible support out of China


Definitively a solution for a real pain point! All the best!

Does the system allow for specific regulatory/quality assurance requirements - e.g. a filter feature so a medical device manufacturer can limit their search to ISO13485 approved suppliers, or to specify bio-compatibility testing requirements for the parts/material they look for (e.g. ISO10993) ?

Happy to elaborate in PM :)


How is your tool different to scoutbee?


you can use alibaba or aliexpress or globalsources? been doing that for 16 years now. these days asian suppliers email me to pitch their products and services.


What DB backend does Alpas use?




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