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If you give people defined vacation time, you have to pay it out when they leave in CA. If it's undefined it's worthless, which is good for the employer.



Yeah I think it creates an insane inversion where the people there the longest can effectively have unlimited PTO and the people that are new are fucked. I was just talking about this with my wife.


This is exactly the issue. I left my last job with almost two months of vacation time. No startup wants to pay that out if they can help it.




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