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> This is a fault of the Signal developer, not of the Pinephone.

Whoever’s fault it is, is immaterial. The PinePhone is still lacking as a phone for at least those who use Signal.

> It's the beta release. It's gonna be faster with GPU acceleration AFAIK.

Can you cite that? The problem is that Mobian's stack is based on a lot of GNOME libs that have not been optimized very much and run slow even on desktop, so GPU acceleration won’t help much. Before you mention the other available OSes on the PinePhone, UBports is obsolete, bitrotting tech.

> how much time passed after the release until it became a reasonable smartphone?

The N900 was a reasonable smartphone immediately upon its release, at least in terms of being responsive and having core apps and functionality that people expected at the time. Nokia had a larger team of developers working on Maemo than there are working on PinePhone OSes.




> Whoever’s fault it is, is immaterial. The PinePhone is still lacking as a phone for at least those who use Signal.

You can run it in Anbox.

> Can you cite that?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26569666


> You can run it in Anbox.

Anbox is not considered a reasonable standard solution for running anything on the PinePhone due to its resource requirements. Also, that citation you give supports my claim above.

I understand that you are running a single-issue advocacy account here on HN, but over the last several weeks you have been really embarrassing your own cause with these attempts to sweep major flaws under the carpet. Yes, the PinePhone may offer the prospect of someday being a reasonable libre phone alternative (assuming it isn’t a stillborn project, as I fear), but you keep painting a rosier picture of it now than is warranted.


You are right that I advocate for the GNU/Linux phones. However I advocate for Librem 5 more, and it should be performant enough for most use cases, including Signal in Anbox.

Otherwise you are right and Pinephone is too slow for such things. But, again, this is a fault of Moxie and imo effectively shows that Signal is not free software (no freedom to run).




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