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This headline does not match the original, but, more importantly, the HN version is unintentionally misleading.

It seems to be implying that these scientists who say this are outliers in their belief. Really they are just outliers (I believe) in their willingness to speak up about this matter.

There are reasons others won’t speak up, ranging from access to grant money, to wanting to keep the door open for a China visa in the future, to not wanting to rock the boat with colleagues who are loyal to China.

Unfortunately all this also gets mixed up, even if intentions are completely beyond reproach, with perceived racism and with possibly creating an uncomfortable environment for those who would rather not have the stuff talked about. It’s unfortunate. I don’t know the solution, but unfortunately a harsh “we must get to the bottom of all facts at all costs” approach is not cost free. The alternative let’s all sing Kumbaya approach also is not cost free. No conclusions or solutions here.. it’s a big complex problem. I would prefer to see more nuanced headlines though on HN...




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