I am always amazed and surprised when reading comments on HN regarding Apple, even though I know what I will read.
No matter what Apple does, the Apple apologists come out of the woods to defend their overlords.
I always like to play a little game, which I believe could also be a nice browser extension.
Read the comments and articles, but replace the word Apple with Microsoft. Opinions and stances would shift dramatically under a minute.
I cannot fathom that there are adult educated people living in a free democracy defending a company which works with a authoritarian government which is involed in a GENOCIDE.
Can we retire this argument already? Or at least show hard data to back up this tired claim—it’s been made so often, it should be doable by now.
From anecdotal observation, any big company mentioned on HN will have critics, apologists, critics of the apologists, and (perhaps most relevant) fans of the company who criticise their behaviours. Apple isn’t special in that regard, except it seems to draw the most fervorous irrational hate towards its users. It reminds me of meat-eaters who won’t shut up about vegetarians being annoying, while remaining ironically oblivious that they’re far worse offenders of the behaviour they decry.
> Your parent's argument is that when it comes to Apple on HN, their "fanboy rating" sits well beyond the bell curve peak.
And my argument is “let’s see the data”. Parent’s point is repeated ad nauseam yet I’ve never seen any evidence it’s not confirmation bias on the part of people who are anti-Apple. If this is such a glaring problem as cited, it should be provable. Either do it or please stop repeating an unsubstantiated unhelpful argument which only serves to divide further. Fanaticism doesn’t become OK when it’s anti something.
The onus of proof falls on whoever makes the claim. I’m not the one making unsubstantiated assertions.
> If not then your take is just another opinion
And I readily made that clear, by calling it anecdotal observation. All I’m asking is for the same courtesy and honesty.
> calling for censorship on either is futile.
Comparing a direct polite request to rethink if one’s opinions are based in fact or bias to “calling for censorship” is an absurd argumentative leap. It makes me wonder if you’re trolling.
No matter what Apple does, the Apple apologists come out of the woods to defend their overlords.
I always like to play a little game, which I believe could also be a nice browser extension.
Read the comments and articles, but replace the word Apple with Microsoft. Opinions and stances would shift dramatically under a minute.
I cannot fathom that there are adult educated people living in a free democracy defending a company which works with a authoritarian government which is involed in a GENOCIDE.