On: Apple's Cooperation with Authoritarian Governments

[brainless]

The issue is not that this is happening with Apple products, the issue is that it is happening everywhere. What do I purchase?

I want a device which puts my privacy first and one which my family members can operate too. Without me being on the line to teach them how.

We simply have too little competition in the phone OS market from my point of view. Also web-first phone are pretty rare.

[fsflover → brainless]

> I want a device which puts my privacy first.

https://puri.sm/products

> and one which my family members can operate too. Without me being on the line to teach them how

I am afraid that it is always necessary, even with Apple devices. My relatives use Linux just fine after I explained a couple of things.

[brainless → fsflover]

Even my family uses Linux on laptops, have been using for a decade now. But that is exactly why I mentioned phone. The options are too few here.

[em3rgent0rdr → fsflover]

I use librem labtop, but have been waiting a few years for a preordered phone from them.

[fsflover → em3rgent0rdr]

Same here. They have sound reasons for the delay though: https://source.puri.sm/Librem5/community-wiki/-/wikis/Freque....

[brainless → brainless]

BTW I do not mean there are no issues in the laptop/desktop OS market. But majority of people use the phone to store personal information now.

[amelius → brainless]

> I want a device which puts my privacy first.

I want a device which puts me first. As opposed to the vendor of the device.

[eingaeKaiy8ujie → brainless]

Fairphone + LineageOS might be a good option

[theodric → brainless]

Unfortunately there is no money for Apple, or anyone, in putting your family safety and privacy first, since selling you out is far more profitable since most people don't care. By the time it gets bad enough for them to care, it will be too late to turn back.

Disillusionment with the way things are going is the reason I've kinda decided to step away from tech. I will miss the income, but I won't miss the dystopian hellscape. I'm buying a farm. Gonna raise chickens. Will automate as much of it as I can with non-cloud FLOSS and my own code and sweat. I will not try to grow it to billions, I will prioritize my time.

[pseudalopex → theodric]

Companies wouldn't try to hide privacy violations if no one cared.

People care about privacy. They don't understand how their data is used and believe they can't do anything about it.[1]

[1] https://www.pewresearch.org/internet/2019/11/15/americans-an...

[brainless → theodric]

> since most people don't care

This is the biggest trouble we face. If we, as users, do not care enough, companies have no reason to change anything.