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> Hopefully you and I can make time to join club or do thinking on our own terms.

Reminds me of a thought that's been sitting in my quotes file for a while.

"What one wants is to be able to talk with a diverse club of smart people, arrange to do short one-off research projects and simulations, publish papers or capture intellectual property quickly and easily, and move on to another conversation. Quickly. Easily. For a living. Can’t do that in industry. Can’t do that in the Academy. Yet in my experience, scientists and engineers all want it. Maybe even a few mathematicians and social scientists do, too."

-- Bill Tozier, Diverse themes observed at GECCO 2006

https://web.archive.org/web/20120625133020/http://williamtoz...

(And personally, I do want it too.)




Sounds like Paul Erdős had it figured out...

https://www.britannica.com/biography/Paul-Erdos

> Erdős would show up—often unannounced—on the doorstep of a fellow mathematician, declare “My brain is open!” and stay as long as his colleague served up interesting mathematical challenges.

(More anecdotes here: https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/books/first/h/ho...)


The quality of Erdos' output is questionable. He's very famous, but that's it. He's a social success and part of the problem.


I wonder if you're approaching him from the other culture of mathematics.

https://www.dpmms.cam.ac.uk/~wtg10/2cultures.pdf


I'd say most likely.


Indeed this is a very fitting quote.

I can also generalize that to human existence. I've struggled with work life a lot, I've seen good people going robbers, depressed.. but 90% of them came in the morning with the best intentions.. somehow in this system, naturally a sad state of chaos emerges that makes most people very frustrated if not more.


Yep, sounds idyllic. Maybe some form of engineering consulting?


Me too. What was the context of the quote?


The immediate context is the article to which I linked. It's a stand-alone observation by someone attending some conference in 2006.

How did I encounter that quote? I have no idea. I thought I found it on HN, but going by HN search, I can only find myself posting it, twice before in the last 5 years. I must have found it elsewhere.

I saved it, because it strongly resonated with me - it describes what I would love to do for a living, and what I also think the society needs to improve both research and engineering.




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