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> While taxing carbon usage is a good idea, there is something fundamentally wrong with the idea of allocating so much resources, in servers, in power and in space, for what essentially doesn't improve people's lives.

There's something fundamentally wrong with the idea of deciding for people what might improve their lives and what isn't allowed to try, rather than letting them decide for themselves individually. People decide to allocate those resources, for something they consider worthwhile. Some of them think they'll get rich. Some of them think they're changing how the world does business or exchanges money. Perhaps some of them are right; perhaps none are right but a successor that learns from them will be; perhaps they'll solve a novel problem or perhaps they won't. The world needs room to experiment with interesting ideas.




> There's something fundamentally wrong with the idea of deciding for people what might improve their lives and what isn't allowed to try

I disagree, I don't think this at all an a priori wrong. It's helpful to consider the limit case.

If we lived in a world, for instance, where one person owned all of the food in the world and didn't want anyone else to eat it, it would be permissible for the other 7 billion people in the world to "decide for" that one that their food will be redistributed.


Permissible by whom? The one who owns the food? By the mob of 7 billion? By your own Morality?

What if you are the only one without, would the 7 billion agree the person is morally correct to steal from them?


> deciding for people what might improve their lives

I don't believe I did this. What I do, though, is measure the actual positive impact this tech has now.

> The world needs room to experiment with interesting ideas.

Bitcoin is way past the experimental phase.

> rather than letting them decide for themselves individually.

We're talking about something that has systemic impacts. Once individual actions reach such a scale that others get impacted, it's normal for society to get involved and set rules.


How do you objectively measure the actual positive impact of this tech exactly?


I simply hear to proponents' testimonials.

So far, the prevalent stories have been about servicing people living in countries suffering from hyperinflation, which is just as easily done with a foreign currency.

Another common point is the promotion of smart contracts. It seems to me that these tools are still anecdotal, and don't really provide a significant competitive advantage compared to standard contracts. Besides, cryptos not using pow and incorporating good tooling are much better suited for that.

The decentralized nature of the ledger is another common selling point, but proponents don't really tie it to a material benefit.

Other impacts, usually not really promoted are its support to illegal activities such as digital racketeering, money laundering, etc. For instance, the financial aspect of ransomware is usually supported by this technology.

If you feel I have missed some impacts, feel free to point them out.


You've probably missed the most important one - diversification. A lot of people (rightly or wrongly) are concerned about the U.S. Dollar after what has transpired (and is still transpiring) with this pandemic. The Fed has unleashed it's full force and we simply don't know (although many are making their best predictions) what the future holds.

There's a reason companies and major asset holders are putting 1-10% of their portfolios into Btc, and I assure you it's not only speculation.


I understand that people may be interested in finding a safe asset to diversify into, but if there is no underlying asset to anchor btc to, it's purely a social consensus.

If at some point the economy gets better and people want to invest back into actual stuff, what happens to the late leavers?


We don't really need to. The damage it does is so incredibly massive that positive impact would have to be gigantic to offset it, and it is blindingly obvious no such massive impact exists.


> What I do, though, is measure the actual positive impact this tech has now.

I don't think just measuring the carbon footprint is giving you an accurate measurement.


> There's something fundamentally wrong with the idea of deciding for people what might improve their lives and what isn't allowed to try, rather than letting them decide for themselves individually

This is literally the whole point of having law.




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