On: Suspension, Ban or Hellban?

[drx]

The biggest problem I have with this is the wasted energy by the hellbanned.

[tptacek → drx]

I'm finding myself not having trouble with wasting the time of people who previously sunk their time into deliberately wasting everyone else's time.

[astrec → tptacek]

The old eye for an eye chestnut, eh? It's fine for a time, but if the account remains active there ought to be some form of review.

[tptacek → astrec]

"An eye for an eye" is about revenge. This is about valuing someone else's time no more highly than they value yours.

[blasdel → tptacek]

You seem to think that the hellbanned masses are all trolls, and that is absolutely not the case.

Many of them were just too passionate about a particular issue one day. Quite a few seem to have done nothing untoward at all.

[astrec → tptacek]

Rubbish. It's about inflicting a punitive measure on those who violate the community's rules.

I don't really have a problem with that right up until the point where you wittingly waste someone's time because they previously wasted yours.

[tptacek → astrec]

I didn't hellban anybody. But I have an idea who did. And, you know what? If you're gonna ask me, "who's more likely acting in good faith, the hellbanners on HN or the hellbanned?" it's not even a little challenging for me to answer that. The people managing HN are not mean-spirited.

[astrec → astrec]

I didn't hellban anybody. But I have an idea who did. And, you know what? If you're gonna ask me, "who's more likely acting in good faith, the hellbanners on HN or the hellbanned?" it's not even a little challenging for me to answer that. The people managing HN are not mean-spirited.

In asking that I'd be turning this into a discussion about deontology and I doubt anyone's interests are served thus.

However, I do take your point. It just happens that I also have a considerable problem with the ethics of reciprocal justice.