Also a Canadian, Ontario. I didn't think to tip delivery, but my girlfriend at the time would include a tip when putting cash on the table for when it arrived. My mother's friend tips at Tim Horton's drive thru. So it likely varies a lot between various demographics
The hassle is that even if a place charges more for food, you don't know if they pay their service better. So if you're going to support the "no tips" agenda you'll have to put in the additional effort of looking up wages to decide Starbucks is better than Tim Horton's
" So if you're going to support the "no tips" agenda you'll have to put in the additional effort of looking up wages to decide Starbucks is better than Tim Horton's"
I just....don't see why. I honestly don't get an argument why. When you get a plumber do you check how much they earn per hour and decide accordingly?
Like seriously, it's the biggest scam the restaurant industry has managed to pull off - they are making customers a) worry about this stuff at all, even though you wouldn't for pretty much any other industry b) make them feel bad for not tipping if the company pays poorly. That's incredible. And it's so incredibly condescending towards the workers too "oh you poor slave, you are paid so little, I'll give you some extra cash so you can actually live like a normal human being". There's probably some kind of syndrome that fits this situation.
Sure, but reality is that minimum wage laws exclude waiter positions on the basis of tipping. So if you're anti tipping you should at least make sure you're avoiding places paying less than minimum wage. & you can't know just by looking at the menu
I worked ice cream vending (https://serprex.github.io/w/Ice%20Cream%20Biker if someone wants to read a very dry recount of my first day) where half my income was from tips. The prices of the items were generally like 2.75 to encourage getting me the extra quarter. It's a weird way that the business can leverage advertising a lower price while allowing tips to average out to cover a shitty wage
>>So if you're anti tipping you should at least make sure you're avoiding places paying less than minimum wage. & you can't know just by looking at the menu
But....why should I care about this as a customer at all. Again, I'm baffled how did the responsibility for the wellbeing and income of restaurant workers has been shifted to the customers. The employer should be responsible, not me. It literally doesn't work like this anywhere else. As a customer I also don't check if there are rats in the kitchen or if the chef is pouring grease into storm drains, yet I'm expected to be responsible for the salary of employees?
"After several months working at Café Linnea, he also found he was making less money than if he were receiving tips.
"I think that the wage ended up working out to be like ... an average of what one might expect to make on a slow night, but it didn't adequately make up for the busy nights.""
So sure, people who benefit from the broken system complain if it's being changed. What a surprise. Of course people who happen to make really good money on tips will complain about removal of tips. Shocker.
Somehow elsewhere in the world tips are just not expected and restaurants still manage to hire and retain staff.
Another quote:
"Fox said the no-tipping policy meant management couldn't end up sending servers home early on slow nights."
And....? How is this given as a downside?
And another:
""My employer paid for less than half of my total earnings," he said. "Most of the burden of my earnings was on the customer and thus didn't have to be reflected in prices."
Café Linnea never increased prices enough to make up for the higher staff wages, he said."
Like, I could have told you the outcome of this "experiment" before they even started.
The hassle is that even if a place charges more for food, you don't know if they pay their service better. So if you're going to support the "no tips" agenda you'll have to put in the additional effort of looking up wages to decide Starbucks is better than Tim Horton's