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I think it's easier to run a small k8s cluster than it is to attempt to recreate a lot of the functionality provided manually, especially if you're running in a cloud where the control plane is handled for you.

It provides unified secrets management, automatic service discovery and traffic routing, controllable deployments, resource quotas, incredibly easy monitoring (with something like a prometheus operator).

Being able to have your entire prod environment defined in declarative yml is just so much better than running something like a mishmash of ansible playbooks.

If your application runs on a single host and you don't really care about SLAs or zero downtime deploys, sure, use some adhoc deploy scripts or docker compose. Any more than that, and I think k8s pays for itself.




Agreed. What is it that people are doing (or not doing) where a simple managed k8s cluster is more work than the minimum way to do this?

Are teams not even setting up automated builds and just sshing into a box?


For me that’s Heroku. I just push my app (RoR) and done. I’ve actually moved it once to k8s for a few months and decided to move it back after I understood how easy heroku made the opa side of the business.

Note: it’s a side project, 50 business users, $5k annual revenue, 4h per month as target for the time spent on customer support, admin and maintenance. So it’s both easy to pay heroku and important for me to not spend too much time on Ops.


k8s is not simple to learn for legacy admin teams, even those who have some container experience. It is simple to kubespray a semi-working cluster on-prem or cloud provider k8s your way along but if you need to actually learn how to deal with multiple ingress controllers, a service mesh, need multiple storage providers, affinity, gpu accelerated apps, secure k8s and the other problems solved in the legacy world (in myriad ways) k8s can be regarded as a disruptive interruption in your ability to operate. All this being said I lead both IOT edge(via k3s) and science (cloud & air gapped 'vanilla' k8s) platform teams and appreciate the chance to sell k8s and make easy money.




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