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I wouldn't say that it doesn't matter. I think that propagating the values of free software is important, so I'm certainly supportive to a large degree.

But I think HN is the place to discuss nuances such as these:

Firstly, it's very unclear to me how Purism and the FSF reconcile the FSF criteria regarding 'Nonfree Firmware' with the blobs on the device. It's also unclear to me what the distinction is between this part of the criteria and the RYF certification.

https://ryf.fsf.org/about/criteria

Furthermore, the FSF's criteria regarding non-free firmware seems problematic, and it directly affects the Librem. Purism has been working with the FSF in pursuit of the RYF certification, and all of the responses I've found seem to be somewhat evasive of the fact that it may be the Librem will not get firmware updates, and that this is in accordance with RYF criteria.

https://forums.puri.sm/t/does-respects-your-freedom-certific...

The response from the CSO almost confirms this.

I find a lack of firmware updates to be possibly more of a concern than whether or not only my application CPU is running only free software.

What the FSF and company define as 'software' also still seems to be problematic.




> I find a lack of firmware updates to be possibly more of a concern

Why are you suggesting that one can't change the firmware? In your link, Purism CSO explicitly said you would be able to do it:

> I would expect that we would document the process in our Librem 5 developer docs at some point, when it’s relevant (such as when there’s an update to apply).


The CSO explicitly said they "expect" you can, and "at some point" it will be documented.

They have yet to explicitly state in any way that they will ensure firmware receives security updates.


There has been documentation for how to update the proprietary firmware for the RS9116 modem on the Librem 5 since early 2019: https://developer.puri.sm/Librem5/Development_Environment/Bo...


This is true, but it doesn’t mean it’s impossible.


> It's also unclear to me what the distinction is between this part of the criteria and the RYF certification.

Ya, you are confused.

The PureOS endorsement is about a distro you can download and put on a computer (the distro doesn't include a bios or related firmware).

RYF is about all the software that comes on a computer/device, and the website you use to buy it, it's much more expansive.

So, Purism's computers are not RYF certified, but they come with a distro that is fully free (the disto does not include some nonfree firmware that comes on Purism's computers).




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